espio o9: thoughts on the disciplinary committee [BBS]

[turnip_rage]

[Behold: the reason justice-obsessive Espio has not tried joining the Disciplinary Committee. He may be bored, he may have time to spare... but he's hung up on one little detail.]

NEWSFLASH: The Disciplinary Committee is a club.

And at that, it's a club perfect for attention seekers and bullies, desperately scrabbling for some superficial way to

Comments

[rebellingheart]

I don't think it's quite like that. Sure he's pretty arrogant and smug, but there's plenty of good things about him too! Maybe you'd have to actually know him to get it. [Yes, she's defending the guy that tried to sacrifice her to an evil sorceress. She sees nothing wrong with this.]

The Disciplinary Committee might take things a bit too far sometimes, but they're not all that bad either. The committee was started and given the powers it has for a reason.

-Rinoa

[turnip_rage]

It's true that I spoke to the guy all of once, but any guy lazy enough to sit back while people are in trouble just to chill out, toss out orders (through a method that probably isn't even going to reach his club in the first place) and look important? Not exactly a good influence.

[rebellingheart]

He was just doing his job. [She saw that post, now that she thinks about it.] It might not have been done in a way that makes sense to you, but that doesn't mean what he did was wrong.

[She ever thought there'd be a day where she was actually defending the disciplinary committee. Who knew?]

Sure, he might be arrogant and he can be childish and a bully sometimes, but he's far from lazy. It might not seem like it to you, but Seifer's a lot more than what you see on the surface he's not the sort of guy who'd sit by for no reason when people are in trouble.

[After all he'd been the first to listen to one girl's story about how she wanted to free a city and take her seriously enough to help her get the help she needed. No matter how may bad things had happened after later, she'd never forget that.]

[turnip_rage]

See, you say all that, but all I'm saying is what I'd seen. He can have all the hidden depths he wants, but if he never bothers showing them, that's his problem.

[xiiicard]

Oh, but um.... I'm in the club.

[turnip_rage]

I could be in the club if I wanted. Anyone can. That's the point.

[renzokukens]

Only the Head Leader of the Disciplinary Committee can issue punishments.

- Commander Squall Leonhart

[renzokukens]

As a member of the Disciplinary Committee, you should be setting an example. Which would be not antagonizing other cadets.

- Commander Squall Leonhart

[renzokukens]

The point of the Disciplinary Committee is to enforce the rules of Garden. No littering and no breaking curfew included.

Anything not included in the rules should be brought to my attention immediately. This includes the bullying of cadets.

- Commander Squall Leonhart

[turnip_rage]

Commander, I just don't think that role should belong to a club. It's easily abused, and difficult to take seriously. Not that I go around breaking the rules often - just when people are stupid and attack me with a chainsaw in the middle of a corridor - but who do you think I'm going to take seriously? This Azula person up there who thinks punishment can be issued for opinion, or one of the Faculty?

[fierybluebird]

Chainsaw?

What did Grell do now?

[turnip_rage]

Was that his name?

He shrieked something about a monster, whipped this chainsaw out of nowhere and tried to kill me!

[fierybluebird]

Thank you for that Espio.

As a member, I'm flattered by your stance on this.

I joined because keeping a rowdy crew of pirates from running around setting marines shoes on fire (either as some desperate cry for attention or as a death wish) is pretty much second nature to me. And this is almost the same. As you may have noticed, the Garden itself isn't always too picky about its members and as such, chaos and bullies are likely to happen.

- Marco.

[turnip_rage]

With your attitude, you'd likely be a decent leader for the club, because that perspective makes sense. Plus I doubt you'd sit back and use the position just to bark out orders.

But I doubt that the disciplinary committee is what allows you help out - you can do it on your own, you could make your own club and call it the "anti-crazy crusade" or anything if it's as easy as joining a school club and wandering around with a few detention slips.

All I'm saying is that the Disciplinary Committee are technically on the same level as other cadets. By extension, that renders it pointless.

[fierybluebird]

You want to give them more power or just strengthen their requirements?

I'm not a big believer in things with stringent requirements for joining. My Pops let anyone he felt worthy in -- even when they tried to kill him. He was a big believer in giving people a chance to prove themselves. And I'm not going to lie, it didn't always work. But without it I wouldn't have met almost all of my best friends.

[turnip_rage]

Actually having standards at all might be a good starting point.