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Jun 11, 2010 00:39

Watched Alice in Wonderland today. The Tim Burton one.

... It wasn't a bad idea. I even liked it, but it also sends me into a nerdrage.

I will probably edit with a rant when my aunt turns the internet back on.

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vega_jd June 12 2010, 00:13:44 UTC
What happened? I personally liked it very much, I watched it twice ^^

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witch_of_the_si June 14 2010, 14:02:14 UTC
XD Well see, I've read the books and played American McGee's Alice. You see... The Red Queen? Not the Queen of Hearts. They're two different characters. The Queen of Hearts is, obviously, the "Off with their heads!" lady. The Red Queen is the leader of the red(black) pieces in the second book. It sent me into a nerdrage that they turned the Queen of Hearts into the Red Queen...

Also, they set up a romance with the hatter and then... she... goes home? Where nobody understands her and thinks she's mad and gets irritated when she points out seeing a white rabbit? Why does this sound like Narnia? More importantly: http://xkcd.com/693/

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vega_jd June 14 2010, 19:57:42 UTC
Okay, let's see. I'll agree with you on the first part, because I know Red Queen =/= Queen of Hearts. I haven't read Through the Looking Glass yet, so I don't know much about her, but I assume they tried to merge the two together to make her supah evil or something ( ... )

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witch_of_the_si June 14 2010, 22:16:58 UTC
I don't particularly remember the red queen being evil. Alice met her in a garden and she gave her advice. They were playing chess...

Well It looked like it was ZOMG MAGIC IS REAL, unlike American McGee's Alice where they make it quite plain that we're inside her mind. Plus Tim Burton's movies, though trippy, tend to be be ZOMG MAGIC IS REAL. Also, there's the fact that not only did she not remember it, but also the wonderland creatures bickering over whether or not she was the real Alice. In most psychological representation it doesn't present itself as such. For example, American McGee's Alice, nobody doubts what she is meant to do or who she is, and they are clearly defined roles: The rabbit as the doctor, the cheshire cat as the stray cat that offered her comfort, the queen of hearts and jabberwocky as her own selfhatred and guilt... It doesn't have the qualities of a dreamscape from a storytelling point of view ( ... )

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parareality June 12 2010, 03:21:09 UTC
I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't the actual Alice in Wonderland story, but a "several years later, Alice falls back down the rabbit hole" tale. For that matter, the 3D wasn't utilized extraordinarily well.

That said, I *did* enjoy it. I'd have enjoyed the same amount of time being devoted to Ches and the Hatter at the tea party, though. (Yipes, little Dormouse became a real badass, didn't she?) The ending was a bit of a let-down to me. When the scene of Alice on the ship ends, and the movie's over, I turned to my friend in the theater and said "...And she sails RIGHT into Captain Jack Sparrow at the next port, doesn't she?" We both laughed. XD (I could see it happening)

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witch_of_the_si June 14 2010, 14:03:30 UTC
XD Speaking of Jack, though, Depp was acting like Jack, not like the Mad Hatter... That was one of the reasons for the nerdrage. I'm just a dork like that.

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parareality June 14 2010, 17:27:49 UTC
Yeah, I could kinda see that. A younger Jack, perhaps. XD

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witch_of_the_si June 14 2010, 22:17:26 UTC
XD Perhaps there ought to be fanfiction that involves her sailing into Jack.

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