Comments | wisdomeagle: meta: "Oh, the Horror" [S4 Cordy]

wisdomeagle

meta: "Oh, the Horror" [S4 Cordy]

May 29, 2005 00:10

My S4 AtS Cordelia essay, for with_character. Spoilers through "You're Welcome".

Oh, the Horror!

The problem with discussing Cordelia in S4, of course, is that it's uncertain whether there even is a Cordelia in S4. So much of her arc is open to interpretation and speculation, with the major question being whether and to what extent Cordelia controls her own ( Read more... )

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estepheia May 29 2005, 12:53:09 UTC

Excellent. This truly clears a few things up for me... :-)

wisdomeagle May 29 2005, 16:00:51 UTC

Awesome! :) Glad you enjoyed.

ladybeth May 29 2005, 18:45:42 UTC

very good. That was the first time I had expirance with Cordy. I started watching in Season Five and borrowed my best friend's Season 4 tapes which were the last half of the season.

wisdomeagle May 30 2005, 00:39:59 UTC

Thanks.

cleapet May 29 2005, 19:04:49 UTC

Good essay.

*mulling it over*

wisdomeagle May 30 2005, 00:39:34 UTC

Thanks. :)

glossing May 30 2005, 00:22:52 UTC

Neat essay, thank you.

Also, she thinks Gunn and Wesley are gay. (This is a very, very important plot point, and not just Ho!Yay.)
Question, if that's cool? What's this mean? I kept waiting for you to come back to it.

I'm actually inclined to push it back and episode and say that it wasn't until Jasmine's conception that she fully controlled Cordelia
I think I'm with you, especially because at the start of the episode, she seems...almost stifled by knowledge she can't quite comprehend.
*CORDELIA*
I know. Every time I close my eyes, I...
*CONNOR*
What?
*CORDELIA*
See it. Something horrible moving deep down, clawing it's way up.

and
No one's safe. Don't you understand that? It's coming, and no one can stop it. I want to warn Angel, but the words won't come out. Why can't I tell him? I feel it. The thing in my dreams... It's real, and it's almost here.

It can't have been easy to pull all this together. You did a great job.

wisdomeagle May 30 2005, 00:38:40 UTC

It can't have been easy to pull all this together. You did a great job.

Thanks. :)

Question, if that's cool? What's this mean? I kept waiting for you to come back to it.

Ah. That would be the invisible sarcasm font. Sorry.

viciouswishes May 31 2005, 00:05:00 UTC

Excellent essay.

I will say that I think her changes started at "Birthday." While I think that she did have some attraction to Angel (heck, she did in high school too), the moment where she sees herself in the mirror talking to herself seems a little overly played. Also in the moment where Groo and Cordy are guarding the portal to Quortoth and Cordy kisses Groo as they are struck unconscious by the lightening bolt type thing, Cordy looks up at the portal before. And since the portal was CGI generated, I have a hard time thinking that was just a coincidence.

For me, it also seems just too incidental to not have started in S3 since Skip gave her the demon essence and also worked for Jasmine.

Also, she thinks Gunn and Wesley are gay. (This is a very, very important plot point, and not just Ho!Yay.)

Those are always very important plot points.

wisdomeagle May 31 2005, 02:17:27 UTC

I definitely think changes started in S3, but I see more of Cordy than of pod!Cordy until S4. But definitely, the demonization was the first step towards the takeover.

Also in the moment where Groo and Cordy are guarding the portal to Quortoth and Cordy kisses Groo as they are struck unconscious by the lightening bolt type thing, Cordy looks up at the portal before.

Interesting. Will have to look for that when I rewatch.

Excellent essay.

Thanks.