This is very interesting - I did not know that Bosie married later in life and I agree with you that he probably did it out of his old rivalry with Ross and because it was a chance to have a relationship that at least at the ouside looked 'normal' and that he was not in love with her as he was in love with Wilde. It seems like a very complicated relationship, with both of them caught between genders, so to speak.
I have read about relationships/marriages like that between gay men and lesbian women, but only in modern days, so it's intriguing to read about a couple like that at the turn of the century.
I believe we are more conservative than the past people(ancient people, esp). People like Olive and Bosie proved love should have no boundaries.
I can relate to Olive -- sometimes I long to be a gay man and experience the uranian love, a thing that cannot be fulfilled by lesbianism, nor substituded by heterosexual intercourse -- No matter how boyish/manly I would become, boys and men still could not see me as a male 'cos I never am.
I think Olive initially did treated Bosie as a lover, only poor Bosie just wanted a companion.
Was Bosie attached to extraordinary people? Wilde was alienated with his colourful fashion sense and his witty, while Olive was unique was her masculine persona and preference to effeminate males. I think Bosie was so lucky (can I say "lucky"?) to experience such earthshaking loves, twice.
I know what you mean. I think that people became much more conservative after the Elizabethan age (there's a lot of gender play and sexual jokes in Shakespear, for example) and it got worse with every century.
Yes, it could have been a very one-sided relatonship - I've always though that Bosie was rather egoistic and so wouldn't have been able or willing to really treat her as a lover.
And I agree, he surely preferred partners who stood out, perhaps this excited him...
I even heard Britishes became very sensitive after Wilde's trials that they ceased the socia-level intimacy (such as arm-linking, hand-holding, kissing-hello, etc.) which was very common in Victorian Age once. Therefore, we seldom see boys doing so without rumors about their sexual orientation, nowadays.
Bosie was egotistic but it seems that he did treated Wilde as a lover, in his own unique way. He also saw Wilde as his mentor and a father-figure.
I can't blame him neither. However, I don't think he was IN love with Olive. He loved her, yes, but not in love. He tried to use a heterosexual marriage to "straighten" himself but only made things more complex.
I admire Olive for bing masculine and devoted to a feminine man. She, and her fellows, was so mordern that makes us to be ashamed of our conservation.
Bosie was lucky to experience such earthshaking loves twice in his life.
it's only natural for a woman who is yang by nature to fall for a man who is yin.
Thisw line is beautifully written and very true.
Ha, I forgot to quoted the word "lucky". Seriously, he might not like his complicated love life at all but I know someone out there long for a "crush and burn" love affair like his.
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I have read about relationships/marriages like that between gay men and lesbian women, but only in modern days, so it's intriguing to read about a couple like that at the turn of the century.
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I believe we are more conservative than the past people(ancient people, esp). People like Olive and Bosie proved love should have no boundaries.
I can relate to Olive -- sometimes I long to be a gay man and experience the uranian love, a thing that cannot be fulfilled by lesbianism, nor substituded by heterosexual intercourse -- No matter how boyish/manly I would become, boys and men still could not see me as a male 'cos I never am.
I think Olive initially did treated Bosie as a lover, only poor Bosie just wanted a companion.
Was Bosie attached to extraordinary people?
Wilde was alienated with his colourful fashion sense and his witty, while Olive was unique was her masculine persona and preference to effeminate males.
I think Bosie was so lucky (can I say "lucky"?) to experience such earthshaking loves, twice.
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I know what you mean. I think that people became much more conservative after the Elizabethan age (there's a lot of gender play and sexual jokes in Shakespear, for example) and it got worse with every century.
Yes, it could have been a very one-sided relatonship - I've always though that Bosie was rather egoistic and so wouldn't have been able or willing to really treat her as a lover.
And I agree, he surely preferred partners who stood out, perhaps this excited him...
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Bosie was egotistic but it seems that he did treated Wilde as a lover, in his own unique way. He also saw Wilde as his mentor and a father-figure.
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However, I don't think he was IN love with Olive. He loved her, yes, but not in love. He tried to use a heterosexual marriage to "straighten" himself but only made things more complex.
I admire Olive for bing masculine and devoted to a feminine man. She, and her fellows, was so mordern that makes us to be ashamed of our conservation.
Bosie was lucky to experience such earthshaking loves twice in his life.
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Thisw line is beautifully written and very true.
Ha, I forgot to quoted the word "lucky". Seriously, he might not like his complicated love life at all but I know someone out there long for a "crush and burn" love affair like his.
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