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Apr 27, 2009 10:42

The latest article about how our model of graduate education is broken ( Read more... )

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kello24841 April 27 2009, 16:36:52 UTC
Thanks for posting this! A few thoughts I had ( ... )

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greekdaph April 27 2009, 18:23:48 UTC
I totally agree with everything you said here, and you put it way better than I ever could ( ... )

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amugofcoffee April 27 2009, 19:50:52 UTC
Oh yeah, I found the most ridiculous thing was his comparison of tenure to the regulation of financial markets. Uhhh ... what?

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kello24841 April 27 2009, 18:16:56 UTC
Also, Marc Bousquet's response: http://chronicle.com/review/brainstorm/index.php?id=1330

I don't know if this is sub-only or not, but if it is, he says it's cross-posted on howtheuniversityworks.com, but when I just went there to check, it wasn't up yet.

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greekdaph April 27 2009, 18:45:52 UTC
That response isn't sub-only, and it's brilliant--funny and true. Yay!

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amugofcoffee April 27 2009, 19:41:43 UTC
Yeah, that article says what I was thinking about the NY Times piece. There was a whole lot of crazy in there.

Even though there are issues with graduate education in America, this dude should remember that we still have the best universities in the world by far. I think we can fix specific problems without DEMOLISHING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AS IT STANDS BWAARRR

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sugardust001 April 27 2009, 21:26:19 UTC
That's exactly what I thought when I read this last night! Why do we have to fix the things that aren't broken? I wouldn't be interested in studying any of the new interdisciplinary programs he suggests...not even "Water."

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sockmonkeyjoe April 28 2009, 06:26:12 UTC
A professor and I were talking about this article for a solid hour this afternoon. We thought it was funny how the writer, who's in his 60's now and tenured at Columbia, is conveniently critical of the system when he's probably on his way out. "Scrap tenure and reform the whole damned system, but, uh, wait until I'm gone, ok?"

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