True then, true today.

Nov 12, 2007 22:12


"We can only be faithful to democracy itself if we resolve our differences by investigation and open-minded debate. In that fact lies our ultimate strength as well as our present weakness; in that fact lies also the call to service for the liberal student and teacher.

One of the chief causes of our confusion is our false sense of the uses of ( Read more... )

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novak November 13 2007, 04:17:34 UTC
Oof. More evidence, I take it, of some of the interesting things this degree program is making you read?

So. The dark question for a lover of American democracy: How many students who today graduate from a college or university with a bachelor's degree have received a liberal education? (In the technical sense in which he could, I assume, use the phrase - and be understood in its use - in 1942?) Even in a school that has some program-memory of liberal education like at Notre Dame, what would be your guesstimate as student and administrator of the percentage of students even in the College of Arts and Letters who were really educated in that way?

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xraytheenforcer November 13 2007, 13:53:06 UTC
probably more than you think, but because we also simultaneously infantilize college students, none of the teaching surfaces until they sober the fuck up, at age 28 or so. (although it is interesting to note that scientists have found that brains really don't stop maturing until one is 22 or 23, and thus we really aren't able to properly, maturely process information until then.

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bassmike November 13 2007, 19:48:15 UTC
If then.

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bassmike November 13 2007, 19:49:10 UTC
"Have you a range oven?"

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