two generations, two povs - no winner (well, he think he won)

Dec 07, 2012 22:03

So - both my parents are anti same-sex marriage. Or rather they are anti calling it marriage. Call it a unite or a partnership. Let them have all the same rights as married couples, but don’t call it a marriage. And all the ancient records were a same-sex marriage was preformed? Yeah, that’s not in English so who knows what it really meant. And all ( Read more... )

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katje0711 December 8 2012, 04:51:32 UTC
What does Morgan Freeman have to do with anything?

It amazes me how many people are opposed to same sex marriages. Hello?? There are a lot more gays that have been together (even though not married) a helluva a lot longer than any straight marriages. Doesn't that tell people anything?

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walkwithheroes December 8 2012, 05:05:41 UTC
Oh, I mentioned a quote from him where he basically said that homophobia was just another way of saying people were assholes. (At least I think it was him) Plus, he did some ads for marriage equality. Anyway, i brought up the quote and my dad nodded, but then said: I hate Morgan Freeman. Honestly, it just felt like a really weird time to bring up the fact that he dislikes (or rather hates) an actor.

Agreed. Sadly, people in the older generations, with more conservative view points, or/and from certain backgrounds and areas seems to have a non budging view on things. They truly believe that marriage=religion and it is theirs. That marriage (word or otherwise) didn't exist before religion. It's not true, but as I said, they really don't want to believe it.

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katje0711 December 8 2012, 05:08:05 UTC
It really is sad. I'm proud to say my hubby used to only support civil unions but now supports gay Marriage. :)

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walkwithheroes December 8 2012, 05:15:18 UTC
Yes!

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kitmarlowescot2 December 8 2012, 11:31:58 UTC
Well one has to take in the generational difference, and the world he grew up in is quite differnet from the one our generation grew up in. I mean in your father's childhood the media wont' have touched anything gay with a ten foot pool. Everything he heard about with gayness was bad in media,life and he didn't have access to other's point of views that we do with the internent and the ability to see other's points and experinces that are completely different from us. You also have to take the AIDS epicidmic, and the fear of living throught this disease that his generaion and my mother's generation lived through. The homophobia they heard about 24 hours a day and the way the poltical goverment just ignored it. Fear can make you angry, and I think our father shows that through his views. Unfortunatley you might never get him to see from you persceptive and all the two of you can do is agree to disagree. If it makes you feel any better I am sure in your life time you will totally disagree over something similair with your children or ( ... )

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walkwithheroes December 11 2012, 03:13:21 UTC
I suppose you are right. My father was born in 1962 and grew up in a rather small town. He's never been one for "alternative" life styles and it's getting worse with age. (He's become VERY conservative and often states that our president and others are leading us to Hell.) I'm disappointed in his refusal to really discuss things (he normally comes into the conversation with a 'bullshit' and a 'you've been brain washed by the liberal media. You just don't know.') that he is uncomfortable with.

What's worse is the fact that he gets all his news from a morning radio show that is just. . .so sexist, homophobic, and racist, I honestly have no idea how the stay on the air. He just really disappoints me because he should know better. He grew up in the deep South - he saw injustice and he saw people being treated unfairly and he stood up for them as a youth. Now (and for the past eight years or so) he's just become really really racist, homophobic, and anti-anything not Christian.

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lastingdreams8 December 9 2012, 00:14:29 UTC
Ahhh! My mom is like that, it's a religious thing, ugh, and marriage really has nothing to do with religion -it doesn't have to be ordained by a priest/pastor.

People are unwilling/afraid to have their viewpoints changed, just because they don't know much about it. It makes me sad, because it is a social justice issue; people are being denied their rights as two people who want to spend their life together (what I would define as marriage) just because of their sexual preference. What I believe, is that if two people are consenting, they should be free to love and be married just like any other heterosexual person.

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walkwithheroes December 11 2012, 03:15:44 UTC
I told him about marriage not really being a religion thing. I gave examples and cited sources! He didn't believe me. He refuses to even think that marriage wasn't always seen to go hand and hand with religion.

It makes me sad, because it is a social justice issue; people are being denied their rights as two people who want to spend their life together (what I would define as marriage) just because of their sexual preference. What I believe, is that if two people are consenting, they should be free to love and be married just like any other heterosexual person.

Yup, pretty much this.

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