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lilac_bearry July 27 2007, 02:51:50 UTC
YOu know, that does make sense. I have nothing to add.

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peachespig July 27 2007, 03:15:18 UTC
Everything you say here makes a lot of sense -- excellent insights.

I had been thinking slightly differently, though I'm not sure I'm right. I had a sort of "One plot twist, one event" kind of thinking, where I was assuming it was the blood (and the blood only) that saved Harry from the AK in the forest, while it was the Elder wand only that finished Voldemort in the Great Hall.

Harry doesn't actually realize the pattern of the Elder wand's masters until he is talking with DD in King's Cross ("The realization of what would happen next settled gradually over Harry in the long minutes, like softly falling snow"). For that reason, I kind of wanted that realization to matter only for the events thereafter -- that it's once Harry knows about the Elder wand and actually claims it that he can truly exert power over it.

But then there is the matter of the Crucio in the Forest, which I don't understand if it's not the wand refusing to harm its master. Clearly I need to read again carefully!

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mrs_bombadil July 27 2007, 15:26:10 UTC
I think it makes a lot of sense but I have to admit that I'd rather it were more straight-forward. Harry was vulnerable to the first AK because of the bit of Riddle's soul he housed in addition to not knowing about the mastery of the Elder Wand. The blood is what allowed him the opportunity to live and the complete mastery of the Elder Wand explains both the Crucio question and the rebounding final AK. Maybe she'll clear it up for us for good.

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stereo_m July 27 2007, 18:50:26 UTC
Makes sense to me!

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petitecrivan July 28 2007, 04:54:49 UTC
I think that makes sense. At least, more sense than it made before.

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