I think there is no such thing as "true" Christians: Every form of Christianity has been a continuum from previous religious beliefs and practices and therefore, there has been no "purely" Christian church and, given that Christianity is itself a collection of older myths, it is impossible that there ever will be such a thing as "true" Christianity.
Although I know where Kensaro is coming from, all we can really say is "Nice teachings, that some people rewrote in the name of Jesus, shame the fan club"
Agreed, the original texts, whatever they were, have been rewritten, reinterpretted, or just plain reduced-to-ashes so often over the years there's no way anyone could claim to be following the 'true' way
( ... )
Addendum: in case it's not clear, no matter how he portrays himself, Colbert is an admittedly devout Catholic (though it's fairly clear in this snippet). Quite frankly, he's been getting on my nerves more and more--and so is his popularity.
Vexen, long time no talk. I'm not sure what you're basing your history on, but it's inacurrate. Maybe the same book you quote from? To speak of the big "C" Catholic Church during the time of Marcion is strange, since the Catholic Church started well after Marcion died. Also, to speak of Pauline Christians in this era seems a bit out of place.
On a related note, there were clear reasons why early Christians held some texts to be canonical, others helpful writings that weren't canonical, and still others as literature that didn't fall within the pale of Christian orthodoxy. In a similar way that Satanists can say that Wiccan literature is not accurately described as Satanist, so can Christians accurately hold that some literature isn't Christian.
Comments 6
As kensaro said once of the actual teachings of Christ, "Nice guy, shame about the fan-club."
Reply
Although I know where Kensaro is coming from, all we can really say is "Nice teachings, that some people rewrote in the name of Jesus, shame the fan club"
Annnnnnyway, how you doing? Want some sand?
Reply
Reply
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=70912
(I hope the video loads for you!)
It's Stephen Colbert talking with Bart Ehrman (author of "Misquoting Jesus") and basically calling agnostics "atheists without balls."
So, when you can get around to it ... what do you think?
Reply
Reply
On a related note, there were clear reasons why early Christians held some texts to be canonical, others helpful writings that weren't canonical, and still others as literature that didn't fall within the pale of Christian orthodoxy. In a similar way that Satanists can say that Wiccan literature is not accurately described as Satanist, so can Christians accurately hold that some literature isn't Christian.
John Smulo
Reply
Leave a comment