"I guess so," said the blond ex-tin man in the duster...

Apr 14, 2008 11:14

What is up with the burly detectivism in Tin Man?  Never have I encountered a fandom so dead set on replacing characters' names and pronouns with ridiculous sounding proxies.  And passive voice!  With a verb that takes an object!  How can that even sound right to an author?

ETA: Ye gods and little fishes!  *stares at ballooning comments*

fandom, tin man, fic, grammar

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kseda April 14 2008, 15:24:22 UTC
I was actually flipping out about that to myself the other day. People have names, it's okay to use them, really! And yes, the costuming was fantastic, but let's not describe every aspect whenever someone turns up.

Unless it's the tightness of Cain's pants. That can never be overstated.

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blackletter April 15 2008, 02:45:12 UTC
a whole lot of it from people who claimed to have dyslexia and who apparently believe that excused them from ever being expected to write comprehensibly

Heh, I have mild dyslexia, and it never stopped me from paying attention to the spell-check squiggles. (Just don't ask me to distinguish "how" and "who".)

several people claimed to have been educated in the U.S. and further claimed to have NEVER BEEN TAUGHT GRAMMAR. Some actually said that "grammar isn't taught in schools here anymore."I'll go on record as another person who wasn't taught a lick of grammar in public schools. It wasn't until I started taking Latin (sophomore year of college) that I learned what a direct object was. Before then I was an osmosis writer ( ... )

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kseda April 14 2008, 15:49:35 UTC
That's assuming kids are still being taught how to write fiction in English classes, which sadly they may not be since it won't help them pass a standardized test. But that's another rant.

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luchia13 April 14 2008, 17:40:51 UTC
I'm PRETTY SURE I'm younger than you, right? If so, the answer is no, they don't teach creative fiction, at least in the higher level/AP-Prep classes. I took Creative Writing I about three times.

...although I got a 5 on my AP exam and a 32 on the Lit portion of the ACT, so the method kind of works, I guess.

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kseda April 14 2008, 18:15:47 UTC
I'm coming up on my ten-year high school reunion so... yeah, me = old. I think I just lucked out with a couple decent honors/AP teachers (and took creative writing, and just read and wrote a lot on my own). But I live with a history teacher and she goes on about needing to teach her kids how to write an essay because the English department doesn't do it. And this is at a highly-respected private school, so I can only imagine what else is going on out there D:

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luchia13 April 14 2008, 18:57:47 UTC
IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND HERE! College is the equivalent of everyone else's high schools, it sounds like.

And that's not old. Old is...old. My brain has failed me.

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amedia April 14 2008, 20:19:57 UTC
Unless it's the tightness of Cain's pants. That can never be overstated.

Word.

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