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beerdrinkinlass December 20 2007, 15:53:48 UTC
I've never been able to watch any videos of animal testing, factory farming, etc., but I haven't had to. As soon as someone posed the question about the strangeness of having pets/loving animals and eating animal products (why I would eat meat or dairy products and then spend $2K on my dog to remove a tumor and keep her alive?), I realized the hypocricy of my thinking and switched to a mostly vegan diet immediately. This community has been instrumental in that change because I see others who don't think it's strange or wacky to care about these issues and allow them to impact their lives in such a major way. I do get the message that I'm strange and too granola from my boss, our HR department, and most of mainstream society ( ... )

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beerdrinkinlass December 20 2007, 15:55:06 UTC
Erm, that should be me being an animal. I am a Gemini, but that's a whole other topic. ;D

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gogh_me December 20 2007, 16:56:22 UTC
there is a monkey out there who can add better than a college student (some of the humans did in fact score lower than some of the monkeys in the study).

There are seahorses that can do math better than some of the kids at my school. But anyway I'd love to go to school with monkeys. Little goth, emo, jock and preppy monkeys hanging out in the quad. Running to class cause they know they're late. Telling me how anxious they are about a test. Partying at the local pool hall on Thursdays. They'd blend right in.

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matt_nothing December 20 2007, 16:57:47 UTC
I'd totally go back to school - doesn't matter which one - if they started admitting monkeys!

I freakin' love monkeys like I love darts. That's a lot.

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exairetemechane December 20 2007, 18:14:35 UTC
I have absolutely no doubt that a monkey would be better at math than I am. There's a reason I satisfied my quantitative reasoning general-education credit with a philosophy class in college.

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j_maehemah December 20 2007, 18:59:50 UTC
Heh, so counting counts as 'basic math' now?

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matt_nothing December 20 2007, 19:49:11 UTC
yes, it does.

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orphe_ December 20 2007, 21:37:40 UTC
if the going theory is that pigs are even smarter, obviously they should check out pigs with a snout-operated touch-screen.

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matt_nothing December 20 2007, 21:48:42 UTC
I agree. As long as the research is done without harm or stress to the animal I think it would be great to find out just how smart these animals are - the more we know about it, the less likely we'll be to continue eating them.

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