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vaznetti October 19 2007, 02:42:49 UTC
...the Trifecta of Morally Questionable Prophecy Moppet Dads and It Would Be AWESOME.

Hahahahahaha! Yes. Yes, it would be awesome. Their children would have to stage an intervention, and it would all go horribly wrong.

I am glad that Dean has snapped out of it, as well -- I think we saw that last week, you know? But it was done well.

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anonymous October 19 2007, 02:37:29 UTC
So, I still want to know how Sam tracked down Mary's friends without superpowers. I mean, he was 6 months old, so he wouldn't have known any of them. Dean was 4, so he might have remembered a few first names, but probably not any last names. John probably wouldn't have bothered keeping track of them, what with the demon hunting and the running from Social Services. Property records and sites like Classmates can get you people she probably knew, but can't really tell friend from acquaintance from "Mary burned to death on the ceiling? So that means your Dad's single, right?"

Did Ruby give him a list? If so, we're looking at a source of unverified credibility, minimum. If he was still having psychic spells, then it'd make sense, but he says he's not, and the lack of vision montages and splitting headaches seems to back him up. (Maybe when the YED asked Dean if he was sure what he got back was Sam, he meant the Crossroads demon brought him back sans visions.)

One of the mysteries of the SPN universe....

--Jessica

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vaznetti October 19 2007, 02:45:50 UTC
Oh dear. Pesky earth logic!

I think there are two possibilities -- one is that Ruby gave him a list of names to check out. This seems the most likely scenario; and he would have been checking out how they knew Mary as well as how they died. The other possibility was that John had a list of names -- if he was keeping such a list, he probably only added names to it when the person died. But I can imagine him noticing that and keeping track of it.

Somehow, "everyone mom knew is dead!" seems a little unlikely. Really. I handwave a lot, here.

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vee_fic October 19 2007, 02:46:14 UTC
I just want a story about the things in that locker. Sam and Dean have time; the locker is there, and they need to resent traps/wards/hoodoo anyway; a bit of story about the things they find, especially things they're surprised to find, or things they don't remember, that would be awesome.

...If anybody were in need of a prompt.

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vaznetti October 19 2007, 19:08:19 UTC
Ha! I think I would want John-stories, about what all that was and where it came from. But yes, it would be nice to see Sam and Dean closing the locker back up, or exploring it.

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cofax7 October 19 2007, 05:43:09 UTC
I am so pleased about what we learned about John in this. John kept mementos! John planned ahead! John had a secret storage locker! (And if he had one... ?)

And yes, the rest of the episode was very amusing as well.

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vaznetti October 19 2007, 19:02:08 UTC
If he has one, he surely had many others. Unless he was taking random trips to Buffalo all the time that Dean just never noticed.

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se_parsons October 19 2007, 05:43:14 UTC
It was called "Bad Day At Black Rock" which was the title of a Spencer Tracy movie.

I adored John's locker of booby traps and death and mementoes of his adorable sons' accomplishments. Dean's first sawed off from 6th grade!!!! Sam's soccer trophy! And clearly, they lived somewhere long enough for him to get to regionals.

There was SO MUCH to love about this ep. Both boys got to do hilarious things, the physical comedy was not only genuinely funny, but it worked with the plot and made sense. JP knocked it out of the park with long-suffering suckage.

I am annoyed with "mission from God" guy and I'm sure hossgal will have things to say about his sterotypical fundieness and bumper sticker Christianity. But I got the impression that Gordon knows he's nuts and is just playing him so he has a minion to get him out of prison. Gordon is smart.

I now need a Dean icon of "I'm Batman."

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vaznetti October 19 2007, 19:05:52 UTC
I adored all the pratfalls -- they bumped into each other and fell down! it was so funny! Awesome all around! And then Sam's face with the, "I lost my shoe," line.

I sometimes feel like this is a show that really does not want to deal with religion, but thinks it should, and thus we get weird stuff like mission-from-god guy (Kubrick, I think?) I would like to see more of Gordon and why he thinks what he thinks. But other than that, it was a really good, fun episode with some cool tie-ins to the larger story. And John's locker of booby traps, death and happy mementos, as you say. Awesome!

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hossgal October 20 2007, 18:47:37 UTC
She does. She's trying to figure out how to say it without going off on random people (or in random lj posts) just out of sheer irritation.

(However, I'm not so annoyed with him, as I am at...other things. Bah. More, later, in my own space.)

However, this ep? Had me laughing out loud, delighted I stayed up to watch, and just in general in love with my show again, despite minor irritations.

- hg

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se_parsons October 21 2007, 06:38:52 UTC
YAY!! I'm glad you loved it and the show again!

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