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valancy_s

Look at this icon and tell me you couldn't believe it.

Mar 21, 2009 15:34

Guys! My Kara/Lee peeps! You must read this!

First of all, I encountered this comment at queenofthorns's journal (by someone I don't know) which I'm pasting in here because I ( so thoroughly agree. )

bsg

Comments 8

chelseagirl March 21 2009, 20:00:24 UTC

Thanks for the rec. Much better.

otahyoni March 21 2009, 21:46:02 UTC

To probably repeat myself from the other comment I just left you, I feel that Starbuck did make a choice - that she saw the opportunity with Lee and the new world, and chose not to take it. I think she chose to disappear when she did, chose to just lay down her arms and be done.

That's just my viewing of it.

valancy_s March 22 2009, 14:14:55 UTC

Well, I feel like having her DISAPPEAR meant she wasn't human, or even half-human, anymore - just a dead angel/ghost/manifestation of destiny - so in my way of viewing it that nixes the possibility that she could have lived out her life.

The show certainly hinted at that possibility right along, but since she has been one of my two favorite characters since the miniseries I still held out hope they'd go in another direction, like having her be the first human/Cylon child and that somehow explaning her resurrection.

'The hammer is my reasoning!' thepresidentrix March 22 2009, 05:26:10 UTC

I want to believe that fic so badly...

But I have this problem, see, where I can never embrace a 'fix' if it's *too happy.* I guess I figure that if the characters pay for their second chance at a new ending, somehow that makes it more believable for me? And not as a matter of principle, mind you. I'm not saying that's how I think the world really works, that no one is ever ever just happy. I only mean *psychologically.* My terrible, melancholic streak a mile wide.

So how can I work with rawles' ending, such that it's still just *a little* depressing - and thereby seems authoritatively true...?

Meanwhile, that comment is spot-on. I've still got too many emotions clogging my pipes to be able to brain effectively about that finale, but I can recognize a good piece of reasoning when I see it. Man, I wish I had some authoritative literary reason of my own to REJECT RDM'S REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN! But mostly all I have is 'Not fair!' and 'Wibble...'

Re: 'The hammer is my reasoning!' valancy_s March 22 2009, 13:57:12 UTC

Oh, I know, it's way too happy for anything the show would ever do. But I don't think it's out of character for real-person-Starbuck, so it's almost believable in that way. And the way to make it work is to remember that in ten minutes they'd be fighting again :P

thepresidentrix March 22 2009, 05:40:49 UTC

Lee's a good character, right? I'm not making this up? Because I still love him! And you still love him! And you're all smart and smart-like, and we're not just any two hormonal girls, thinking Jamie Bamber looks good *not* wearing bearskin, right? I mean, I see this wealth of wasted potential, but sometimes the show itself makes me feel like I must be some shallow/immature/inconsequential/goody-goody crazy person, just because I still care about a character that doesn't seem able to hold their attention anymore. (They would rather have a BALTAR'S HAREM NONSENSICALLY ACQUIRES GINORMOUS GUNS subplot that goes exactly nowhere ( ... )

valancy_s March 22 2009, 14:07:23 UTC

It's okay. It rankles for me too. Lee has to have something real going on if you, me, and a couple other folks on my flist still consider him the favorite character. The unfortunate thing is that people who aren't Leefans consider this to have been a fine ending for him. You have to have been on track with his emotional issues and personal growth to realize that this is an utter disservice and let-down.

ALL THAT MATTERS TO HIM IS THEY'RE BOTH STILL HERE - *sniff*) and then getting treated like 'There is no us,' all over again!Yes to this. This is reason #1 why it sucks. And #2 is because Bill has followed out his supremely selfish plot arc to the last - everything is about him, and if he needs a person for his happiness he will do anything to get them. But it's not Lee that he needs anymore, or Tigh, it's just Laura ( ... )

And... I'm preaching to the choir. thepresidentrix March 23 2009, 06:59:28 UTC

I could actually see myself falling into that same trap, actually. I mean, I'd sell Baltar up the river in a heartbeat for Lee and Kara to actually get a chance at their happy ending, even if I actually do think the stuff between him and Caprica Six at the end, there, was really worthwhile, both thematically and personally ( ... )