4.10 Heaven & Hell

Nov 21, 2008 09:18

Just to compare, last year's "A Very Supernatural Christmas" aired about a week and a half before Christmas.  It was the season's 8th episode.  This year, the tenth episode aired a week before Thanksgiving.  Of course, season 4 started in mid-Sep, whereas season 3 didn't start until the first week in Oct, but still, that's quite a discrepancy.

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zanne68 November 21 2008, 15:52:06 UTC
I thought it was a good episode, too. Not quite as good as last week, but good. And there seemed to be fewer commercials.

Man, Dean is so messed up. Not only did he not want Sam to see him vulnerable, I think he couldn't face Sam, because he didn't want to see how Sam would take what he was saying. Doesn't matter whether Sam would be forgiving or mad, if Dean had to see his reaction he would never have gotten through his story. He was barely holding it together as it was, poor guy. And yes, Sam should have hugged him!! If ever Dean needed a hug, that would be the time.

Ruby needs a more fleshed out motivation NOW. I thought for a while we might actually get it, when she went off to meet with Alistair. Instead we got the torture scene, which was mightily uncomfortable to watch. Guess that's kinda the point of a torture scene, though, huh. Oh, and also to give us a parallel to Dean's tale at the end.

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un_conscience November 21 2008, 19:06:31 UTC
I actually didn't mind Ruby's torture scene. But I think that's because I secretly hoped it would be her last.

I read what erinrua said at supernatural_tv, and I think I'm ready for a hiatus, too. Hopefully it'll give fandom (and me) an opportunity to settle back down after the heaviness of the past couple episodes.

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nuj November 21 2008, 17:27:24 UTC
Until I see it again, I have to admit, it left me a little cold. The last scene, of course, rocked, but I wanted to scream at the editing (stop putting Sam's helpless nodding center screen, give us Dean!) and at Sam's lack of comfort. Just a hand on his shoulder would have elevated the whole thing from intense to perfect ( ... )

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un_conscience November 21 2008, 18:42:02 UTC
But why does Ruby want Lilith? Does Ruby want to be Queen Bitch herself? Is Ruby trying to save humanity? Ruby's memory of being human is just not sufficient enough to appease me. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I was going to say that both Ruby actresses were one-note. Cassidy's Ruby was all bitchy attitude. But when I tried to find a word for Cortese's Ruby, I couldn't think of anything. She's been better in the last couple episodes, but she still doesn't do anything for me. I'm still wondering why Ruby's there. They either need to have her purpose grow (is there more she can teach Sam; does she have a hidden agenda, what is it?) or get rid of her.

I'm really out of touch with the fandom. I was shocked at how many people, both at TWoP & LJ, who've hated the episode. AND hated the sex scene. Granted, the hand on the fogged window was a bit much (and I've never liked setting the sex scenes to vocal music, it's too distracting for my ADD brain), but I thought it was the most tasteful of all (4?) they've done.

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nuj November 22 2008, 03:01:19 UTC
Ruby wants Lilith because of what Lilith has done to Ruby. It's pure personal revenge, insofar as they've shown us.

Being out of touch with the fandom is NOT a bad thing, IMO. :)

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