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Dec 15, 2008 21:54

You all have to send some positive thoughts my way from now on until tomorrow XD; I'm having my Dutch exam first thing in the morning and I feel like I know nothing at all. It's quite nerve wracking, and I'm not looking forward to this at all ( Read more... )

nooo, exam, study study study, university

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miina_san December 15 2008, 22:41:46 UTC
I think it's harder to learn a language that is so similar to norwegian. That's why everyone hates Nynorsk. it's not because it's so difficult, it's beacuse it's so similar you end up writing Bokmål and forgetting how the grammar works.

And dutch is kinda just like Nynorsk. You can read it, but when it's wour turn to write you'll end up writing english og german og norwegian XD which is what dutch really is XP

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twissie December 15 2008, 22:50:45 UTC
Yeah I guess, though my main trouble comes with understanding the grammar. I know it's similar (or more or less the same) to Norwegian, but it still feels new, and all the little bits are just too much @_@; I keep reverting back to Japanese, because I find it much simpler D: It makes no sense.

I never had much trouble with nynorsk, just some odd mistakes because I don't understand how to tell if a word is masculine or feminine xD;;; Can't remember how to do nynorsk at all now, though.

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lian_li December 15 2008, 23:18:33 UTC
Hehe, yeah. I can read your Dutch heading just fine, -- let's call it the 6 degrees of Germanic languages, so with German I'm only one degree removed! -- but it amuses me that you do find Japanese easier! (it's rare that someone doesn't struggle with Japanese.)

Either way, best of luck tomorrow!

(clueless question:...is there really such a big difference between bokmal and nynorsk? (sorry, don't have the right sign on my keyboard.) I was always under the impression they were quite similar...? ^^;)

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twissie December 15 2008, 23:48:20 UTC
Thank you!

I guess I find Japanese easier because I've been working actively with it for about three years now. Dutch is something new, even though I do understand almost everything at a first glance, actually making use of the grammar rules and retaining words is a bit of a struggle. Japanese grammar is fiddly, but also much simpler. You don't have to conjugate verbs to describe plural or singular subjects and there aren't as many irregular/tricky verbs to memorise.

There aren't really that much of a difference, however nynorsk has a few added grammar rules that makes it confusing for secondary school pupils to pick it up. It also feels very... redundant to have two written languages, a lot of people just don't bother learning it right.
The main difference is that nynorsk is based on a bunch of old Norwegian dialects. They weeded out all Danish words when constructing the language (nynorsk was meant to be the true Norwegian at the time of its creation, an alternative to those who didn't like that we used Danish in our language ( ( ... )

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lian_li December 16 2008, 00:05:35 UTC
ah, I see! when Dutch is so comparatively new it makes sense that you're more comfortable in the language you're already proficient in.

Thanks for the Norwegian languages update! It's been ages since I talked with someone about that (I used to know a bunch Norwegian exchange students once.) Yeah, when language is so tied up with national identity it can get ...awkward, since 'purity' just isn't a desirable goal from the *speakers'* perspective, IMO (usability is!). Nynorsk sounds like German -- three genders, phew! 8D I love my language, but I certainly see why it's not scorchingly popular, heh. (And Dutch = French for me, where I will forever stumble and fall over the genders >_>;)

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twissie December 16 2008, 21:51:38 UTC
Haha, German killed me dead in secondary school (I studied it for three years 8D), because I couldn't wrap my head around how grammatical cases worked. Then I had an epiphany during Old Norse studies in upper secondary (I suddenly understood grammatical cases and thought it was the most interesting thing ever). I think I would have done better with German if I'd studied it now xDD

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corporeal December 15 2008, 23:32:14 UTC
Lykke til. ♥

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twissie December 15 2008, 23:49:02 UTC
Hoho dank u wel 8D

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siberian_angel December 16 2008, 08:35:04 UTC
You know what I find funny ... you struggle so much with Dutch and yet you have easily learned suc a complex language as japanese. ;)
And even though I know nothing about Dutch, I could read your heading just fine. =)

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twissie December 16 2008, 21:52:10 UTC
I'm far from fluent in Japanese, but yeah. I find it amusing too xD;

:D

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_kisa_chan_ December 16 2008, 08:58:48 UTC
Good luck! :)

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twissie December 16 2008, 21:52:35 UTC
Thanks~~

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