Poverty and Death

Jan 21, 2014 16:34




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lab_jazz January 22 2014, 12:29:49 UTC
I read that New York Times series on "Invisible Child" a couple of weeks ago after one of my flist posted about it ( ... )

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twicet January 23 2014, 01:54:25 UTC
I think the reason this type of story hits hard, is it shouldn't happen in a developed country. We expect to hear it happens in third world countries, not that that makes it acceptable, but for it to be the norm in a developed country, says that perhaps we are not as developed as we would like to think.

I live in one of the most desirable areas in the world, but we have a serious homeless issue, one we don't seem to be able to fix. Due to the high cost of living, there are more and more families who are working, but still can't make ends meet.

I think we must be responsible for those living in poverty, I'm not sure about a tax levy, but yes, something has to be done. I would like to think that the next generation of children were able to break the cycle of poverty, that seems to be never ending.

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lab_jazz January 23 2014, 13:51:04 UTC
I’m not trying to blame the victim here but I’ve tended to notice (through our church) that it can be very hard to help some members of the community.

One of the contributing factors to homelessness in Perth is State Housing (cheap rent government owned homes) tenants being evicted due to them not paying their rent, trashing their house and waging war on their neighbours.

I think we must be responsible for those living in povertyIn what context and to what degree ( ... )

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twicet January 23 2014, 19:40:38 UTC

I would agree that there are those who make it very difficult to help them, Desani’s parents are, I think, in that category. There is an argument that the changes needed, should start with the children, before they are so entrenched in the cycle of that level of poverty.

I can say that here in the Vancouver area, we do not have enough social housing, this has been an issue for many years now. Actual homeless here is usually due to mental health or drug use, not always though. There are a number who have fallen on hard times, but from what I understand that type of homelessness is temporary, and they are more ready, and able to accept help. Due to the high rental rates there are people working, who can’t afford the rents, this is where we need more social housing.

In Vancouver the start of our homeless population was a direct result of the government decision to close a psychiatric hospital, and initiate ‘living in the community’ it failed miserably. Without the necessary supervision, many fell through the wide cracks, and a homeless ( ... )

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spike7451 January 23 2014, 11:31:34 UTC
Once upon a time homelessness was a problem we associated with third world countries, but it is becoming more and more of a problem everywhere it seems. And as you say, the poverty that is the main cause of it is an ever increasing situation more and more "first world" people and children find themselves in means that it is a vicious cycle that is so hard to break away from.

After I had done the supermarket shopping yesterday I was telling Mum how much it cost and we were both saying how we would hate to even try and feed a large family these days let alone rent or buy somewhere to live. There were six of us and I hate to think what the food bill would be for a family of six these days. So many are doing it really tough these days.

That is so sad that such a wonderful man died far too young!

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twicet January 23 2014, 19:51:37 UTC
It does seem to be a problem in many places now, and the reason for poverty are complex, with no easy solutions. See my reply above.

I am spending more on groceries now than I did when both of the children were living at home. There are a lot of folk finding it hard to make ends meet these days.

He was a wonderful man, and will be so very much missed. On Saturday, there will be a full parade with honours for him, with a Celebration of Life fallowing. I have a feeling the streets will be deep with people.

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spike7451 January 24 2014, 12:40:28 UTC
That is wonderful that he is being honoured that way.

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