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Oct 24, 2008 00:19

Oh, and illegal, unethical, unscrupulous, and intentional donations.

As the Powerline reader has noted, if "John Galt" of "Ayn Rand Lane" attempts a contribution at the McCain campaign, it gets rejected. Which is just as well. If the Republican candidate's website were intentionally set up to facilitate fraudulent donations, it would be on the ( Read more... )

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thekat03 October 24 2008, 06:24:49 UTC
wow... all these people trying to see if obama's accepting fraudulent donations or not are donating to obama's campaign using real credit card numbers. how generous!

so, i wonder if the transaction actually does go through and they're out the $5 or whatever they chose to donate to test.

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tulzscha October 25 2008, 05:20:56 UTC
Yeah, I thought about that as well. I guess they like wasting money trying to prove a point that's already been made? Or, they could just be morons.

It'd be funny if analysis were to show that 10% of the donations were from people testing the system, though.

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tulzscha October 26 2008, 02:35:00 UTC
In an update: yes, the money goes through.

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theswede October 24 2008, 07:04:24 UTC
I'm curious; how is it fraudulent to donate anonymously?

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tulzscha October 25 2008, 06:43:51 UTC
It's not fraudulent to donate anonymously. But it is deliberately inviting fraud to intentionally make your system accessible to certain categories of donation. (i.e. foreign contributors, or people who want to donate more than allowed)

They turned off every kind of merchant credit card verification in existence -- AVS, CVM, etc. Interestingly, they're not even verifying the country of origin of the credit card.

I have a credit card issued by a bank in Hong Kong.... I’ve just made 5 donations of $5 each using the card...

Which is a setup for things that are clearly illegal:

The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or ( ... )

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theswede October 25 2008, 08:23:39 UTC
Interesting. I knew that bribery was legalized in the US, but not that there were actually such checks on it. Wonder what the purpose of splitting such hairs in the law is; bribery is bribery no matter where the money comes from in the rest of the world.

But sure, seems like they're not fully implementing all the checks and balances. Don't know if that's anything that would make me decide in a vote for or against them, after all, every political candidate in the US accepts what in the rest of the world is bribes. After that it's just a matter of degrees.

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