I love the fluidity of your writing my only complaint is that I'd love to see longer stories from you. You have a handle on the characters that excite me and I just want more. It's still hard for me to believe that you are not one of the most popular writers in the Supernatural fandom.
I've been writing a lot of drabbles in S4, and fewer longer stories. Something about the canon was really uninspiring to me as a reader and a writer this year, and S3 had problems for me too. There are longer stories for previous seasons, though "long" for me can be 700-1500 words more often. Things in the 3300-6000 word range seem "epically" long to me as a writer, and I wish it weren't so, but I have not been able to persuade my brain otherwise. I really envy those who can work a 10K-30K canvas and have it make sense in their heads!
Your words are encouraging, though, and I'll continue to strive toward writing more longer stories (even in past-season settings) so that drabbles don't seem like the bulk of my SPN work!
I think you have a good, solid writing basis, with good characterisation and character voices. I think you often tell instead of show. Your romantic relationships can be overly flowery at times, with a tendency towards clinical sex scenes, and which really throws me out of the moment. I also think you can paint your main characters as too perfect, when it's the flaws and ambiguities that are the really fascinating parts of them.
Wow, negative comment is negative, but I hope you take it in the spirit in which it was intended, because I know you're a popular writer, with good reason. I just think you could be even better.
Interesting comments, and I do try to stay away from the "tell" and not "show," but sometimes I'm in a hurry or just not aware of it.
For the floweriness and clinicality, are there any stories in particular that represent the negatives to you and others that you think avoid those negatives? Examples always make that more clear to me, especially because... I've written a LOT of fics, and styles/tendencies change over time. I may think I've "stopped" doing something that I'm still doing, or that I'm doing something better than on average maybe hasn't changed much.
Only praise for your writtings on the early Supernatural days and the early Prison Break days, I have since fallen of the fandoms but I really enjoyed reading your fiction. Thank you!
Did you wind up leaving those fandoms for the same reasons? Prison Break just went entirely downhill for me after S1 (it became a different show), and Supernatural has been hard on the fans since S3 and lost a lot of people then.
But one thing both have in common is that the relationship between the brothers, which for me at least was a huge part of why I watched the show, became less "close" and "tangible" over time. I'm curious if that pushed you away from the shows, or whether it was just that they stopped "speaking" to you for other reasons.
While I really love your writing and the thought that you put into your premises, the fact that I know the stories are going to be so short means that sometimes I just skip reading them to avoid the disappointment.
A lot of what you write isn't in fandoms or fandom sub groups I read but what Ive read of yours often seems like its not complete? Like the thought is there but it's not as fully expressed or explored as it could be? Its frustrating, because you are a good writer and have good technique and good grasp of character, but the point of the story or drabbles you write frequently seems like its missing something.
Are you thinking mostly of the drabbles? Those are limited to 100 words, and they tend to be "vignettes," though I strive to make them seem complete within their form.
What about the full-length stories? Do you find a similar problem there? I spend a great deal of effort on making sure the story seems complete to me, which doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for you, but ideally it should.
Can you think of any non-drabbles in particular that felt "incomplete"? Examples are always so helpful!
I have always envied those who are capable of writing drabbles, and yours are amazing - beautifully worded and filled with meaning - but you're good at the longer stories too. I don't know why you think you have no imagination (peeked at your profile!) because it's not as though canon is giving you this material. It - and other fanfic - may plant the seeds, but it's YOUR mind articulating your own perspective into compelling, beautifully descriptive writing; and I don't think someone without an imagination could capture the characters the way you do.
If you can find the time, I would say, trust yourself and try to write more longer fiction, because drabbles, for all their momentary brilliance, tend to leave one wanting more. That would really be my only criticism - not enough! - and I do appreciate that it may be time restraints as much as or more than your belief in your abilities as a writer.
and I don't think someone without an imagination could capture the characters the way you do. Thank you!
You know, other people have said similar things over the years, and I think it's just that I view imagination differently-- perhaps in a much more limiting way. I can write fanfic in part because the characters and their context already exist-- I'm exploring someone else's foundation. The idea of writing on an open canvas doesn't lead much of anywhere for me (and that may be partly because I'm a small-scale writer and not a "novel-scale" writer).
Not to mention that things like AUs (writing a romance novel with Sam/Dean instead of the original characters) tends to stymy me. I love it when other people do it well, but just yesterday I looked at some prompts for one of those and just mentally froze. Because I have no imagination! :0
For the longer stories, it actually has more to do with your last thoughts than a lack of confidence. I started to struggle with SPN in S3 a little bit, and I've found S4 terribly hard to work with--
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I've skimmed the other comments and was a little surprised by some of them. I can understand why readers would like to see longer stories, because they love your writing and just want MOAR!
However, I have to say that your drabbles are some of my favourite works of yours. I find that they tend to pack a punch, to express strong emotions, and to convey profound love, desire, etc., despite their brevity. Sometimes, I think that the brevity itself adds to this; by forcing yourself to write within the limit of a hundred words, you distill the those emotions or ideas to their most powerful essence.
And you do so beautifully. In every drabble there's at least one turn of phrase that just wows me.
Of course, your longer fic is wonderful, too, and I wouldn't advise you to write fewer longer fics, or shorter fics, but I especially love the drabbles.
The drabble actually forces out more "flowery" language simply because you don't have as many words to throw around, and you have to be sparing with the ones you do have. Oddly enough, it forces showing rather than telling as well, for the same reason. I'm glad you think they work well!
They are at least "faster" to write than longer stories, though for some settings they're also a vignette that suggests itself to me where a longer story might not. I've noticed that much more lately with Supernatural S3 and S4-- the construct is hard to work with for longer stories, but smaller ideas are more "appealing" in that setting. Some authors don't seem to have that problem, but it's been a real challenge for me.
LJ did not send your reply to me! Maybe it's because of the anon commenting? I'm glad I came back to see if other comments had been posted; I was curious.
Anyway, you're welcome!
As for S3 and S4, I know what you mean. In working on my own epic S4 fic slowly as I have been, for months, watching S4 unfold in way that made my fic more and more AU, I've really struggled. But then I remember: Fanfic is, in a way, a commentary on the source material's lack. I do believe that canon can be wrong; when it contradicts its own previous canon or makes characters do things that are OOC, it is wrong.
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I've been writing a lot of drabbles in S4, and fewer longer stories. Something about the canon was really uninspiring to me as a reader and a writer this year, and S3 had problems for me too. There are longer stories for previous seasons, though "long" for me can be 700-1500 words more often. Things in the 3300-6000 word range seem "epically" long to me as a writer, and I wish it weren't so, but I have not been able to persuade my brain otherwise. I really envy those who can work a 10K-30K canvas and have it make sense in their heads!
Your words are encouraging, though, and I'll continue to strive toward writing more longer stories (even in past-season settings) so that drabbles don't seem like the bulk of my SPN work!
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Wow, negative comment is negative, but I hope you take it in the spirit in which it was intended, because I know you're a popular writer, with good reason. I just think you could be even better.
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For the floweriness and clinicality, are there any stories in particular that represent the negatives to you and others that you think avoid those negatives? Examples always make that more clear to me, especially because... I've written a LOT of fics, and styles/tendencies change over time. I may think I've "stopped" doing something that I'm still doing, or that I'm doing something better than on average maybe hasn't changed much.
Thanks for taking the time to leave comments!
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Only praise for your writtings on the early Supernatural days and the early Prison Break days, I have since fallen of the fandoms but I really enjoyed reading your fiction. Thank you!
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Did you wind up leaving those fandoms for the same reasons? Prison Break just went entirely downhill for me after S1 (it became a different show), and Supernatural has been hard on the fans since S3 and lost a lot of people then.
But one thing both have in common is that the relationship between the brothers, which for me at least was a huge part of why I watched the show, became less "close" and "tangible" over time. I'm curious if that pushed you away from the shows, or whether it was just that they stopped "speaking" to you for other reasons.
Boy, I miss the early years of both these shows!
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I ask because I label the drabbles on the "character/pairing" line along with the genre, and if it doesn't say drabble then it's a regular fic.
Which still might be short to you, depending upon what you prefer!
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What about the full-length stories? Do you find a similar problem there? I spend a great deal of effort on making sure the story seems complete to me, which doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for you, but ideally it should.
Can you think of any non-drabbles in particular that felt "incomplete"? Examples are always so helpful!
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If you can find the time, I would say, trust yourself and try to write more longer fiction, because drabbles, for all their momentary brilliance, tend to leave one wanting more. That would really be my only criticism - not enough! - and I do appreciate that it may be time restraints as much as or more than your belief in your abilities as a writer.
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Thank you!
You know, other people have said similar things over the years, and I think it's just that I view imagination differently-- perhaps in a much more limiting way. I can write fanfic in part because the characters and their context already exist-- I'm exploring someone else's foundation. The idea of writing on an open canvas doesn't lead much of anywhere for me (and that may be partly because I'm a small-scale writer and not a "novel-scale" writer).
Not to mention that things like AUs (writing a romance novel with Sam/Dean instead of the original characters) tends to stymy me. I love it when other people do it well, but just yesterday I looked at some prompts for one of those and just mentally froze. Because I have no imagination! :0
For the longer stories, it actually has more to do with your last thoughts than a lack of confidence. I started to struggle with SPN in S3 a little bit, and I've found S4 terribly hard to work with-- ( ... )
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However, I have to say that your drabbles are some of my favourite works of yours. I find that they tend to pack a punch, to express strong emotions, and to convey profound love, desire, etc., despite their brevity. Sometimes, I think that the brevity itself adds to this; by forcing yourself to write within the limit of a hundred words, you distill the those emotions or ideas to their most powerful essence.
And you do so beautifully. In every drabble there's at least one turn of phrase that just wows me.
Of course, your longer fic is wonderful, too, and I wouldn't advise you to write fewer longer fics, or shorter fics, but I especially love the drabbles.
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The drabble actually forces out more "flowery" language simply because you don't have as many words to throw around, and you have to be sparing with the ones you do have. Oddly enough, it forces showing rather than telling as well, for the same reason. I'm glad you think they work well!
They are at least "faster" to write than longer stories, though for some settings they're also a vignette that suggests itself to me where a longer story might not. I've noticed that much more lately with Supernatural S3 and S4-- the construct is hard to work with for longer stories, but smaller ideas are more "appealing" in that setting. Some authors don't seem to have that problem, but it's been a real challenge for me.
Thanks for commenting!
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Anyway, you're welcome!
As for S3 and S4, I know what you mean. In working on my own epic S4 fic slowly as I have been, for months, watching S4 unfold in way that made my fic more and more AU, I've really struggled. But then I remember: Fanfic is, in a way, a commentary on the source material's lack. I do believe that canon can be wrong; when it contradicts its own previous canon or makes characters do things that are OOC, it is wrong.
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