tomato, tomahtomarconipleinJuly 14 2006, 15:57:13 UTC
the last person i knew who used that argument with any sort of bold sincerity was arguing that her only role in the co-op should be organizing a bookshelf and making cookies.
my household employs the principles of cooperation, which means that 2 out of the 4 housemates never do their dishes or any sort of cleaning. by these standards cooperation just becomes synonymous with being an asshole.
Re: tomato, tomahtomarconipleinJuly 14 2006, 16:00:41 UTC
actually, my housemates are quite nice. eventually, somewhere they will do the dishes. i have faith in that. i also have faith that i can speak up for myself and ask things of them.
Re: tomato, tomahtotriple_entendreJuly 14 2006, 17:36:19 UTC
the answer, i think, is to scale up until you reach the point where your population includes at least one member who prefers doing dishes, and allow them to do all of them. specialization and trade.
(and as i've said (or implied) before, this will occur at a population of 12 or more members.)
here at Sasona, I've noticed that a clever way to get people to do stuff is to undertake some pro bono house improvement project, publicly but without fanfare or complaint, and be seen having fun doing so. Later, one sees them doing the same, on their own.
Re: tomato, tomahtomarconipleinJuly 14 2006, 19:42:28 UTC
that's one nice thing about being in the bay area. i get new ideas about cooperative living from people all over the country. my friend juli lives in a cooperative house in berkeley and it's big and beautiful and everytime i step inside the door i feel like i'm coming home and learning something new.
i think you're onto something about doing things publicly but "without fanfare or complaint."
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my household employs the principles of cooperation, which means that 2 out of the 4 housemates never do their dishes or any sort of cleaning. by these standards cooperation just becomes synonymous with being an asshole.
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(and as i've said (or implied) before, this will occur at a population of 12 or more members.)
here at Sasona, I've noticed that a clever way to get people to do stuff is to undertake some pro bono house improvement project, publicly but without fanfare or complaint, and be seen having fun doing so. Later, one sees them doing the same, on their own.
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i think you're onto something about doing things publicly but "without fanfare or complaint."
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