Comments | trinityvixen: Finally, I can post about A Game of Thrones

trinityvixen

Finally, I can post about A Game of Thrones

Jul 21, 2011 00:12

I finished the book a while ago (and am even within a week or three of finishing the second book!) but I had yet to watch the show. Honestly, I needed to give it time between book and show or it would end up being like Lord of the Rings all over again. I read The Fellowship of the Ring all of two days before seeing the movie and I was (it pains me ( Read more... )

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ivy03 July 21 2011, 11:26:11 UTC

I am SO WITH that article. It was something I noticed about Rome--the constant panning past people fucking. And if they were trying to go for an R rating, that was unnecessary--the level of violence was sufficient.

xannoside July 21 2011, 11:37:12 UTC

It's definitely something they're pretty amazingly unsubtle about. It gets particularly weird when we get to the "sexposition" scenes (though some of them are actually pretty good).

trinityvixen July 21 2011, 14:24:34 UTC

At least Rome offered a good deal of cock to balance out the tits. Honestly, with something where the sexes are equally like to be nude at any given time, it becomes more background than anything else. Take Spartacus: Blood and Sand (please!). By the time you get to the orgy half way through the series, you're like yaaaaawn, nudity. It ceases to shock if it's not all about tits and ass in weird places for no reason.

I still agree with the article. Having boobs everywhere does not prove U R SRS ADULT.

xannoside July 21 2011, 11:29:33 UTC

Cersei and Jamie Lannister are completely wrong.

I realized that one of the reasons they worked for me is that their portrayals in the show definitely jive more with how their character development has grown over the course of 5 books.

The vicious coldness will definitely come, and Jamie definitely gets better over the course of the show.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Peter Dinklage, who is awesomeness made flesh in this show.

shell524 July 21 2011, 12:08:12 UTC

Peter Dinklage is awesome, but way too pretty to be Tyrion. :p

The people I watched the show with and I were reminded of Denis Leary when we saw Jaime Lannister. So we spent most of the show with the asshole song popping up when he was on-screen.

For the most part, I've been happy with the casting. Other things have bothered me, but TV hasn't seen them yet.

trinityvixen July 21 2011, 14:29:15 UTC

He does look like Dennis Leary. He also looks less pretty, in general, than I think he should, or that I've been led to believe he would by stills I've seen of him. It's just weird. If he were too pretty, I'd never believe he was reliably ruthless, but he's too rough for me to believe anyone fawns over him.

viridian July 24 2011, 05:50:53 UTC

A friend of mine pointed out that Tyrion wouldn't have to be actually ugly to be treated as such; he's a dwarf, that's enough for the assholes in the story to abuse him and claim he's hideous even if the reality was that he's not.

I don't recall offhand if they actually said in what ways he was supposed to be ugly, but since we only see through POV characters, I almost believe that the reality could be he looks just like Peter Dinklage and no one has functioning eyes.

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fairest July 21 2011, 14:38:51 UTC

I was disappointed with Cersei's casting, and Jon Snow's, and I was similarly unable to discern Jon from Robb from Theon early on. I didn't like the look of any of them; the visual fit felt wrong. Ditto for some characters who come later -- not bad choices necessarily, just not a mental image match.

I loved the look of Daenerys (& Viserys), but I'm unhappy about how they handled her wedding night scene with Drogo, which was totally disempowering for the character (versus the book version).

The other characters I find fit pretty well, though again, I've only seen the first few episodes. I can't comment on the nudity or sex just yet either -- there are certainly gratuitous tits, but they're at HBO-expected (if still ridiculous) levels. I don't think I've hit any of the offensive scenes people have cited in the articles.

I'm excited now to see the last-episode scene the article references. :)

trinityvixen July 21 2011, 14:42:40 UTC

I don't see any of the Stark children clearly enough to object to this or that face, aside from Robb being obviously too old, but their faces were for me as you describe: wrong.

Daenerys came out okay, but Viserys is ridiculous. Good thing I won't have to put up with him long. Drogo is actually pretty good, although bigger than I expected. My mental image of him is somewhat slimmer, but I expected horse lords to be more Native American than WWE wrestler. I didn't like the wedding night shit either. It makes it hard to see why Daenerys gives a shit about him later.

shell524 July 21 2011, 18:39:05 UTC

I loved the look of Daenerys (& Viserys), but I'm unhappy about how they handled her wedding night scene with Drogo, which was totally disempowering for the character (versus the book version).

This. This is what I was referring to in my comment.

viridian July 24 2011, 05:46:52 UTC

Cersei is sooooooooo wrong. And I love Lena Headey, but just no. She's bad. Jamie is kind of how I pictured him, and at least not offensive to me, but not amazing.

I also can't tell the Stark kids apart, and Jon Snow is pretty forgettable.

Sansa looks way too old; I can't tell if they aged her up for less creepiness, or if they just expect us to believe that girl is 12 or 14, however old Sansa was. Danerys was meant to be 14, and I know they supposedly aged her up to 19 in the tv series... but then cast an actress who still looked 14, so... still creepy!

And, this is probably blasphemy, but Sean Bean is SO NOT NED STARK to me. I just don't see it. Ned had more of a coldness about him and Sean Bean is a little too likeable.