I shouldn't have this much to say about Thor. At least this isn't about Thor really?
After the debacle that was shoe-horning in Black Widow into iron Man 2 and all the Avengers stuff that Jon Favreau clearly wanted nothing to do with, I was, despite my abiding love of Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson (who I think is way more interesting than Samuel L.
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Diesel: WE DRIVE CARS INTO IT.
Clooney: And a second team, using fake IDs--
Diesel: CARS.
Clooney: This really needs subtlety to--
Diesel: CARS.
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Meanwhile, in the background, the two brother duos from both films are locked in a wrestling match, desperately trying to give each other wedgies, and Brad Pitt and Sung Kang are flirting madly with everyone while Don Cheadle and Ludacris drink themselves to death over how STUPID everyone but them are.
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I'm biased, though. I love Clark Gregg!
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"In thirteen years with the Bureau, I've discovered that there's no amount of money, manpower or knowledge that can equal the person you're looking for being stupid."
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Clark Gregg, however, could get me there. Have you seen Choke? He plays a particularly self-righteous sort who's always riding Sam Rockwell, but he carries it off. (The movie's a wash, which is a shame because I love Sam Rockwell, too.)
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It's so completely natural to combine these franchises, and Marvel built its profitability (back when it was still profitable) on them. As did DC to a lesser extent--from what I understand, their JLA came first, but they didn't require you to read all the other comics to know what was going on in it. Marvel did. Were they being punks by saying, "You want to see what happens if you pit Captain America against the Hulk? Then you have to buy Captain America's comics and the Hulk's comics."? Yes, absolutely, but damn it if it didn't WORK. I think resenting them for doing the same with the movies is just stupid. Anyway, whether you like all the movies on their own or not, The Avengers, without having a movie to its name just yet, is a franchise of which other franchises are a part. End of story.
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Sure, a lot of it is shoehorned and it can be viewed as a huge, elaborate marketing campaign. Or it could be viewed as over half a century's worth of pop culture lore finally getting the limelight and its creators getting a little excitable. Truthfully, it's both, and I find it kind of endearing. (Plus, I think the track record for Marvel Studios' independently-made films so far is not too shabby. Yes, Iron Man 2 had its hiccups and The Incredible Hulk wasn't a masterpiece of cinema or anything, but I found them both perfectly respectable ( ... )
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Yes, it is about making money. Why does it then follow it must be annoying? It's only annoying if it's done poorly. I like that Thor is tied down to the larger Marvel movie universe, something that, given its heavily "science"-based bias of the rest of its movie, is really necessary given how fantastical Thor is.
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I think Hemsworth makes a great Thor and I didn't even know Natalie Portman was in it until she popped up on the screen.
I agree that Gregg is far more interesting than Jackson.
I know the cameo you speak of, but only because a friend who's nerdier than me was talking about it later.
Haha I'm not sure how I feel about this Clooney/Diesel collaboration...
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