See, I could deal with this, except that he also gave Jack feelings for the Doctor, as well as major Issues. If it wasn't for that, Jack could walk away and do whatever he wanted, and I'd be all for it.
WHY DOES IT ALL HAVE TO BE SO EMO?
I'm off to find some black eyeliner now. I bet Ianto has some I can borrow.
Well, I'm not saying that Jack's the most interesting companion ever. I'm very fond of Ace myself. In fact I'd love to see her working at Torchwood. That would be AWESOME.
But I do think he's made out to be new Who's version of The Perfect Companion, and it's hard not to think that that was done on purpose.
But WHAT purpose? So he can go do something else instead? I don't understand.
Hunt it down! Catch it, pen it up and watch it breed!
Can't you see Ace kicking Owen's butt? Giving Jack the Glare of Death when he flirts? Eyerolling at Gwen's "humanity"? Hm, I wonder what Ace would make of Ianto. I bet they'd get along GREAT. She'd teach him how to make Nitro Nine and he'd fix her the Really Good Coffee.
Of course, I've had a long-time craving for some Jack/Ace, and can't find it anywhere. Saving the world while shooting people and blowing stuff up. They fight crime!
Because Rusty wants people to write the fanfic that he daren't put on the Beeb.
Let's face it, RTD is Vince Tyler so he was simply being a fanboy and creating the possibility of that ship in the hopes that someone else would boldly go where he isn't allowed to.
Vince was one of the leads in Queer as Folk, a really lovely guy and completely obsessed with Doctor Who. There just seem to be many similarities between Vince and RTD, at least I think there are, and I always assumed that he based the character on himself.
[First, let me get my shuddering out of the way. Your icon (specfically, the Doctor in it) creeps me out! That is one scary mf'er. Sigh.]
Jack would make the perfect companion, and it looks like creating him that way was deliberate.Those are good observations/connections. I just wonder, though. It certainly works out that way from this end, but would they (or just RTD, is he solely responsible?) have had that much of a plan? I can see it being kind of like writing fic, where you have an idea of where you're going, and then the character sometimes develops a life and plans of his own and it becomes something more than you originally thought. In a way. Obviously they had to have planned things like Jack being immortal, and Jack being obsessed with finding the Doctor, but I wonder if they really stopped to think what all that would mean when taken together, against the way the Doctor was going to develop
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The Doctor scares me so much in that scene. I've tried to see it as him making a connection with Jack (sexy or otherwise) because that's what I desperately want to be happening, but all I see is a deranged person. Sigh.
Well, true. I'm not very fond of that scene overall. The Doctor is trying very hard to make a connection with Jack, but he's not succeeding very well, and it's painful to watch.
But that particular moment, and the way he says "Jack...", well, RAWR. It's not only the way he does it, but the context. Jack's avoiding the question, and it's a very important question, and the Doctor is trying to tell him to drop the crap and be honest, which let's face it is just ridiculous, coming from this Doctor, but which is something that Nine might have said or done, and Jack responds to that. I think that Nine would have called Jack out a lot.
And the only answer I can find is what idontlikegravy said: so we can write the fanfic they can't show on screen.
That's a level of interactivity with the fans that I'm not sure if they were expecting or wanting. Considering how dismissive RTD is of the online fans.
I'd like it if that were the answer, though. "Look, we can't play this out onscreen, but we'll set it up, and you guys just run with it, okay?"
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WHY DOES IT ALL HAVE TO BE SO EMO?
I'm off to find some black eyeliner now. I bet Ianto has some I can borrow.
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I have *no* idea what they were thinking - other than that some of the old companions had more interesting lives than is always remembered
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But I do think he's made out to be new Who's version of The Perfect Companion, and it's hard not to think that that was done on purpose.
But WHAT purpose? So he can go do something else instead? I don't understand.
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Oh, what was that dashing past....oh, it was only a plotbunny...
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Can't you see Ace kicking Owen's butt? Giving Jack the Glare of Death when he flirts? Eyerolling at Gwen's "humanity"? Hm, I wonder what Ace would make of Ianto. I bet they'd get along GREAT. She'd teach him how to make Nitro Nine and he'd fix her the Really Good Coffee.
Of course, I've had a long-time craving for some Jack/Ace, and can't find it anywhere. Saving the world while shooting people and blowing stuff up. They fight crime!
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Let's face it, RTD is Vince Tyler so he was simply being a fanboy and creating the possibility of that ship in the hopes that someone else would boldly go where he isn't allowed to.
Or is that a really glib answer?
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Jack would make the perfect companion, and it looks like creating him that way was deliberate.Those are good observations/connections. I just wonder, though. It certainly works out that way from this end, but would they (or just RTD, is he solely responsible?) have had that much of a plan? I can see it being kind of like writing fic, where you have an idea of where you're going, and then the character sometimes develops a life and plans of his own and it becomes something more than you originally thought. In a way. Obviously they had to have planned things like Jack being immortal, and Jack being obsessed with finding the Doctor, but I wonder if they really stopped to think what all that would mean when taken together, against the way the Doctor was going to develop ( ... )
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But that particular moment, and the way he says "Jack...", well, RAWR. It's not only the way he does it, but the context. Jack's avoiding the question, and it's a very important question, and the Doctor is trying to tell him to drop the crap and be honest, which let's face it is just ridiculous, coming from this Doctor, but which is something that Nine might have said or done, and Jack responds to that. I think that Nine would have called Jack out a lot.
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And the only answer I can find is what
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That's a level of interactivity with the fans that I'm not sure if they were expecting or wanting. Considering how dismissive RTD is of the online fans.
I'd like it if that were the answer, though. "Look, we can't play this out onscreen, but we'll set it up, and you guys just run with it, okay?"
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