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of_ivory September 22 2010, 17:22:49 UTC
It's my personal opinion that our HP is a lipstick lesbian in a man's body but that's a story for another day...

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tommykaine September 22 2010, 17:10:26 UTC
I thought Wiccans didn't have problems with gays and transgender people

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of_ivory September 22 2010, 17:13:56 UTC
Most Wiccans don't, but we're all still human and privy to the same shortcomings as anyone else.
While I have an open and accepting circle, the roles are very gendered and coming out as trans will shake things up.

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treasadreaming September 22 2010, 17:11:24 UTC
I'm pagan and trans, but I didn't have any kind of issues from other pagans. That said, I do find things much less strained with people I have met in the community since transition than they are with people I have known for years. All I can suggest is that everyone reacts differently, and many were much more supportive than I expected (whether they were pagan or not).

I'm not Wiccan, so I can't answer how this might affect the relationships you have within your circle. Part of that may depend on how strongly gendered your (for lack of a better word) roles are. You may have to frame it to the High Priest as a matter of respecting you, if he gives you any difficulty (and call on the High Priestess if it continues). In other words, I would talk to her first.

But I always had much more anxiety about people's reactions than was necessary (looking back at it now), and I tend to over-think this sort of thing. I hope things go surprisingly well for you, just as they did for me. Good luck!

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of_ivory September 22 2010, 17:21:42 UTC
Unfortunately, our circle is rather gendered. It's relaxed since I've come into it but still.
Despite my protests, I was made the queen during our maypole ritual, when it wouldn't have been any issue at all to let me be the king. The High Priest got his panties all in a twist over it.
But Maddie-my-favourite-lesbian gave me her most fabulous rainbow flower-crown so I let the issue go. It helped that the king, some babygoth kid, left and I wore his crown as well after we broke circle.

There I go babbling again, but you get the idea. It's like that a lot. When its just the High Priest around, I'm excluded from any masculine duties. Even simple things, like carrying heavy stuff when we do get-togethers.

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treasadreaming September 22 2010, 17:26:08 UTC
Heh. That does sound unfortunate. *hugs* Good luck.

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windfox87 September 22 2010, 18:02:42 UTC
Well I'm Pagan and a sort of independent/eclectic Wiccan -I don't have a circle I belong to, I've mainly joined UU Pagan circles when I manage to make it to public rituals- and I've never had any problems with the few circles I've joined for the odd event or with the various other Pagan/Wiccan people I'm friends with. But most of the circles I've hung out with are Unitarian Universalist affiliated groups and I was out in each of the congregations that the circles were based out of , plus everyone liked the fact that I was out, open, a free spirited type, and a prospective ministry student while being Trans and Pagan. So people generally ignored the fact that I was in a weird limbo situation -had some resource issues starting transition for several years- and let me participate -which also could have been because I generally stuck to the background or middle of the crowd type places & never tried to settle in by finding a role.

Sorry your situation sucks *hugs*, especially the creepy fixation thing that always pisses me off big time

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of_ivory September 23 2010, 01:08:02 UTC
That's super neat! We work with our UU church pretty close. We do circles that sometimes, and they let us host events.
And it wasn't so much that I picked to be a maiden. The High Priestess over our whole church offered the position and it was an honour for me and my girl, so we did it.

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ilanthefirst September 22 2010, 19:10:30 UTC
You may want to ask over at the glbt_pagan community, too.

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of_ivory September 23 2010, 01:08:46 UTC
I am so out of the loop. There's a glbt_pagan group? That's ccol!

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