Everything I've seen has suggested it was the c-word. Which I don't even think should be as offensive as people think it is. Every word I can think of for the male anatomy can be said on tv. What's so disgusting about the female anatomy?
That said, Jeremy's entirely entitled to think Gordon's a bit of a berk. What does it matter if he says so? Since when was it a crime to have a negative opinion about the government?
I don't get the hate for the c-word either. Hell, I get moaned at repeatedly by fellow females because I use it so half heartly. Words are only offensive if you allow them to be.
Everyone is entitled to call someone else a berk etc, it's a free world. But if said person was to then provoke and rile up hatred or attack them, then that's going too far.
Since when was it a crime to have a negative opinion about the government?
It isn't at the moment, but you never know in the future...
I think there should be a campaign by women to reclaim the c-word the way the gay community reclaimed the word queer. It describes part of us, we should be able to use it without people freaking out.
Jeremy's never been backwards about coming forwards with his opinions. I doubt anyone would take his words as a rallying cry at this point. He's so well-known for being outspoken and controversial that everything he says now is slightly watered down as a result. His insults are more likely to be interpreted as humour than as an incitement to anarchy.
There was a tv show over here in Australia called The Glasshouse that was on our government funded broadcaster, which was cancelled in part because it was biased against the government. Fortunately, we've switched from a right-wing to a left-wing government now, but it was scary there for a while. Government censorship is a dangerous path down which to walk.
Here, here! I've got one, so why can't I use the damn word without people being offended?
Thing is, I don't think for one second Jeremy is as vindictive or horrid as people think he is. It's called a front, and if hw ever did go too far I think the missus would be having words, as well as the TG team. There's calling someone a c-word and then attacking them because of their sexuality/religion/colour. But he's an easy shot for the media, hungry for a 'news' story.
I found it hilarious when your PM waded into the Gordon Ramsey fiasco a few weeks back. WHat, has he got nothing better to do then stick his nose into business that doesn't concern him?
To be honest, I think it's the media that's being boring here. Jeremy was presumably warming up the crowd at a taping by being silly and controversial, and the media has leapt at a chance to go "OMG!" about it.
I can't imagine he expected something that wasn't even broadcast to prompt controversy. He probably assumed he was playing to a sympathetic crowd, it being a Top Gear recording audience.
I can't imagine he expected something that wasn't even broadcast to prompt controversy. He probably assumed he was playing to a sympathetic crowd, it being a Top Gear recording audience.
And everyone thinking the same thing about Gordon Brown - come on, who in their right mind would actually like him?
I don't see what the fuss is about, particularly when he said it BEFORE the cameras were even turned on - you know that bit before the filming starts to warm the audience up? And besides, he's called Keith Chegwin a cunt like that and everyone was fine with that. =/
The problem is, everyone's scared of offending SOMEONE these days, so everyone's being over-cautious.
But he said it, so its OMG BAD BAD BAD. He might as well just shut up - he'll never be able to say anything now off the cuff without someone taking offense to it. Sadly, thats the way it is now.
It was the pre-show warm-up. Jeremy has been calling Gordon Brown the 'worst word in the world' for quite some time - I witnessed it myself a few weeks ago, and it was bloody funny. Then again, I agree with his opinion of the sad twat at Number 10 entirely. It's a total non-story, and apparently Jeremy has not been carpeted for it by the important BBC person who attended the filming.
Then again, we are six weeks into a seven week series, and apart from a bit of grumbling from the Scouts and the Catholic Church (which went away very quickly - could it be that someone pointed out all the various times they ended up in the press for doing exactly what the TG boys implied? - and a bit of whinging about that speeding ticket, which was apparently faked anyway though they didn't know that), they haven't been very good at stirring up controversy and upsetting the Daily Fail readers. They've made a few ripples, but not a big splash. Still, there's one more episode to film, so they might manage it yet!
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That said, Jeremy's entirely entitled to think Gordon's a bit of a berk. What does it matter if he says so? Since when was it a crime to have a negative opinion about the government?
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Everyone is entitled to call someone else a berk etc, it's a free world. But if said person was to then provoke and rile up hatred or attack them, then that's going too far.
Since when was it a crime to have a negative opinion about the government?
It isn't at the moment, but you never know in the future...
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Jeremy's never been backwards about coming forwards with his opinions. I doubt anyone would take his words as a rallying cry at this point. He's so well-known for being outspoken and controversial that everything he says now is slightly watered down as a result. His insults are more likely to be interpreted as humour than as an incitement to anarchy.
There was a tv show over here in Australia called The Glasshouse that was on our government funded broadcaster, which was cancelled in part because it was biased against the government. Fortunately, we've switched from a right-wing to a left-wing government now, but it was scary there for a while. Government censorship is a dangerous path down which to walk.
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Thing is, I don't think for one second Jeremy is as vindictive or horrid as people think he is. It's called a front, and if hw ever did go too far I think the missus would be having words, as well as the TG team. There's calling someone a c-word and then attacking them because of their sexuality/religion/colour. But he's an easy shot for the media, hungry for a 'news' story.
I found it hilarious when your PM waded into the Gordon Ramsey fiasco a few weeks back. WHat, has he got nothing better to do then stick his nose into business that doesn't concern him?
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I know it's all part of his supposed charm for his fans, but still... :¬(
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I can't imagine he expected something that wasn't even broadcast to prompt controversy. He probably assumed he was playing to a sympathetic crowd, it being a Top Gear recording audience.
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And everyone thinking the same thing about Gordon Brown - come on, who in their right mind would actually like him?
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The problem is, everyone's scared of offending SOMEONE these days, so everyone's being over-cautious.
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Then again, we are six weeks into a seven week series, and apart from a bit of grumbling from the Scouts and the Catholic Church (which went away very quickly - could it be that someone pointed out all the various times they ended up in the press for doing exactly what the TG boys implied? - and a bit of whinging about that speeding ticket, which was apparently faked anyway though they didn't know that), they haven't been very good at stirring up controversy and upsetting the Daily Fail readers. They've made a few ripples, but not a big splash. Still, there's one more episode to film, so they might manage it yet!
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