Politeness

[timwi]

If someone tells me that something I did, said, or wrote is impolite, rude, or in any other way objectionable, surely they do so in order to pressure me into "bettering myself", which essentially means to behave in a way they prefer. Logically, it is therefore actually their problem if they get worked up over something I do, say, or write, because

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[c_eagle]

a 'certain' degree of considerate demeanor must exist for society to function above the levels of mutual disregard, in order that we all can share, grow and cooperate. this should not be at a level where it supresses understandeable latitudes of liberties, true.

[timwi]

a 'certain' degree of considerate demeanor must exist for society to function

Hah! I already mentioned earlier in this thread that I think this is prejudice :)

[c_eagle]

(* from Christian *)
I don't think so. I think we have already had a chat on this topic, but maybe I should add that I agree with the examples and the line of thought pthalogreen gave in his comment.

It _is_ your problem!

[romanski]

Something you keep denying, this is your problem. Whether this is morally right or wrong is irrelevant. Whether the other people are mistaken is also irrelevant. What matters is that you suffer if you repeatedly do things which people consider impolite.

I do of course assume that you suffer when people don't want to talk to you etc.

Re: It _is_ your problem!

[timwi]

Something the homosexuals keep denying, it is their problem. Whether this is morally right or wrong is irrelevant. Whether the other people are mistaken is also irrelevant. What matters is that they suffer if they repeatedly do things which people consider gross.

I hope you understand that the above paragraph is not my opinion; it's a reductio ad absurdum. Your argument shows a significant lack of respect and understanding, but then you expect that I respect and understand others.

Re: It _is_ your problem!

[romanski]

What? The homosexuals do not deny that their orientation is a problem for them.

However, I agree that after all it's not irrelevant whether people considering you rude is morally right or wrong.

Still, you can either try to change the entire world or live according to the existing rules. It's up to you to decide whether your life is worth dedicating to a fruitless fight against the existing preconceptions. (Surely you agree, this is not as important or as useful as, say, a fight against racial or sexual discrimination)

Re: It _is_ your problem!

[timwi]

What? The homosexuals do not deny that their orientation is a problem for them.

Haha, OMG... don't let an active Gay Pride participant hear you say that! :) You're so stuck up in your own preconceptions.

You are so totally looking at it from your point of view, where the "fight" is "fruitless", but figuring out other people's expectations somehow isn't. Somehow you think it's necessarily vastly easier and vastly less challenging, just because it is for you.