Just Some Random Post-Election Tidbits

Nov 14, 2012 20:56

The Republican party doesn't have a communication or a tactical problem. They have a values problem. A majority of the American public simply doesn't want what they're selling.

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timtad November 15 2012, 02:21:55 UTC
Can I just push the 'like' button for this?

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gadget_girl November 15 2012, 03:17:29 UTC
I know someone on Facebook that just today suggested Ann Coulter for President. O.o

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throwingstardna November 15 2012, 12:27:58 UTC
And you immediately unfriended them.

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gadget_girl November 15 2012, 20:15:22 UTC
I wish, I wish, he's the husband of a long-time friend. I went to his page to copy and paste some of the more offensive posts and wouldn't you know, they're all deleted. Way to stand by his convictions, on top of everything else. The Coulter post is still there, though, so I know I didn't just imagine it all.

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trundle November 15 2012, 03:43:20 UTC
The problem with Hume and Hindraker's arguments is the implicit assumption that a vote for Obama was a left-leaning vote. If we had a clear left-right election (say, Dukakis vs. Goldwater or something), you could make some reasoned inferences about the political orientation of the country based on the outcome. But regardless of Fox News claims to the contrary, outside of healthcare* there hasn't been much about Obama's actual policy initiatives that looks all that leftist. His foreign policy is fairly hawkish and mostly in line with what the Republican leadership would endorse if they weren't too busy hating everything about him. His economic policy in the first term was pretty centrist or even center right -- his spending increases weren't any more than any Republican executive would have endorsed in times of crisis (e.g. W in 2008). There's some indication he might move marginally to the left in his second term, but even now he's willing to spending cuts for revenue increases at a 3:1 ratio. I don't think you can read the election ( ... )

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throwingstardna November 15 2012, 12:26:15 UTC
You're absolutely right. My point in posting those quotes is that they have, for a long time, maintained that most of Americans see eye to eye on them on the issues-this just isn't true, and this is now evidence of that.

But yeah, of course by "liberal" or "left," these guys (and most modern conservatives) just mean centrist; people that are not completely batshit insane right wingers, which is to them, the normal default position.

Moderates aren't really "liberal," they're, well .... moderate, which is why they rejected the extreme right positions that most of the GOP espouses. The Democrats, by comparison-although disparaged as crazed left wing hippie commie radicals-are really just centrist moderates on almost every position.

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synnoveaevael November 15 2012, 05:34:40 UTC
the war on women is just.. appalling. maybe it's because i'm a woman. maybe it's because i know women. maybe it's because my friends have daughters. maybe it's because the thought of anyone of us having to bear a child of a rapist against our will, not that the very act was bad enough oh no, and then, JUST MAYBE he would be allowed visitation rights?! yeah. okay. why would anyone in their right mine okay something like that??

i just would like to know where logic went. so much of this *points above* is illogical. it's painful. it's disrespectful.

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throwingstardna November 15 2012, 12:27:42 UTC
I think in trying to court the straight white male vote, these people forgot that many straight white men also have mothers, sisters, wives, gay and minority family members and friends, etc ...

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alexmegami November 15 2012, 16:05:52 UTC
Or assumed they'd be telling their womenfolk how to vote...

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gadget_girl November 15 2012, 20:14:06 UTC
That probably explains how Mitt got the married women vote. Except not this one because fuck that noise. Also my husband is sane.

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elena November 17 2012, 01:07:20 UTC
Damn, for a second I just thought I had gone back to 2002 on LJ.

I just saw these lovely images and will of course share: http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart

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