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madrun November 14 2008, 13:12:46 UTC
*shakes head in amazement*

I can't believe you liked that Elizabeth Bear series!!!! I have loved everything else I have ever read of hers but I just couldn't get into that one... maybe because I started with the second book?

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thewronghands November 14 2008, 18:44:12 UTC
I hated "Undertow", but I liked this one. Starting with the second book, though, it will make a whole lot of less sense. If you ever feel like giving it another go, read "Blood and Iron" first. You'll start out actually caring about Matthew Magus rather than being "wtf emo kid".

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helen99 November 14 2008, 13:23:27 UTC
> I finally managed to read a version of the Boudica story without being mad for the
> next week

I understand the sentiment. There are some stories that shouldn't be messed with, and Boudica is one of those.

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thewronghands November 14 2008, 18:46:44 UTC
I have another three versions on my wishlist, but I can only take one every few months. Otherwise, AAAGH GET THE ROMANS, a couple thousand years too late. [grin]

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wire_mother November 14 2008, 14:10:35 UTC
"Much like "Titanic", you know what has to happen at the end, and you can see it coming a million miles away, but it can still be a bit wrenching when it does."

i actually prefer this sort of thing to a completely unpredictable plot. the latter can easily destroy my interest, whereas the former keeps me interested through wanting to see how things come to pass. i also read the last paragraph or two of novels right after reading the first chapter or so.

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wire_mother November 14 2008, 14:17:27 UTC
also, i was not actually aware that Bradley had written sequels to Mists of Avalon, or that others had gotten in on her Arthurian vision.

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lwood November 14 2008, 18:23:53 UTC
To clarify:

MZB wrote Mists, although dpaxson, as her sister-in-law, watched it grow and gave a lot of emotional support.

After it, MZB had a stroke, and the next proposed book, The Forest House, showed it. So, Diana stepped in to make it make sense when MZB was no longr able to do so.

The other books in the Avalon series were increasingly written by Diana, although for publicity reasons the publishers didn't credit her on the front cover until after Marion's death.

None of them are sequels--they're all prequels, going back to Ancestors of Avalon, which ties Avalon in with Marion's earlier Atlantis books, Web of Light and Web of Darkness.

Hope that helps!

-- Lorrie

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thewronghands November 14 2008, 18:58:29 UTC
She lost me at Atlantis (everyone does, too many dreadful pickup attempts by Sensitive New Age Guys in my past for me to even try reading anything about it), but I enjoyed this one.

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semper_augustus November 14 2008, 14:51:07 UTC
"Much like "Titanic", you know what has to happen at the end, and you can see it coming a million miles away, but it can still be a bit wrenching when it does." Much like Oedipus. In fact I would argue the tragedy is heightened thereby.

Also, a recommendation: Empires of Trust by Thomas F. Madden. It is a quick read, a comparison of American history with that of the Roman Republic. And the author is an ancient/medieval historian who has done modern history research, not a modern historian who has done ancient history research.

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thewronghands November 14 2008, 18:58:55 UTC
Oh, that sounds great! Thank you!

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stolen_tea November 15 2008, 07:34:58 UTC
I've got a book by Draeger and Smith, "Comprehensive Asian Fighting Arts", which takes a similarly big-picture view. And is also a bit dated, being from 1969, but I don't recall anything *too* wince-worthy, given when it came out.

I found it quite useful in providing a general background on the martial arts, given my mongrel heritage. But it doesn't go into detail on techniques, and touches on training methods only as part of its description.

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thewronghands November 15 2008, 16:57:27 UTC
Yeah, he's written a bunch. There's a set on Shaolin that I was tempted by, even though I know nothing about Shaolin.

I have a VERY difficult time learning martial arts from a book. I've tried and tried. Philosophy and pointers, sometimes, but not technique from scratch.

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stolen_tea November 17 2008, 06:39:40 UTC
I completely agree with the bit about learning from books. They're also useful for form references, especially if they have large amounts of white space for taking notes in. :) But for techniques from scratch, I doubt any book would be as useful as 5 minutes of back-and-forth with a master.

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