Oh, adults

[thevera]

I have two stories I want to share today. They are and aren't related. What they have in common are adults being adults and children possibly having their lives screwed up by them. Anyway...
1) A couple of month ago I went to see my pediatrician. I was already at her office, and she wanted to examine some little (presumably) girl first; I don't

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[moonspoken]

Well, see, now I'm so glad that I added you to my friends list! Because, yes. So much yes. I've had almost exactly this conversation so many times. One of the most damaging things, in my opinion, about the way our modern society veiws sexual identity and sexual relations is how we then box and limit those concepts when, in reality, it's as fluid and diverse as any other part of life.

[thevera]

Oh, me too! It's great to see we agree on other things than fandom as well. And you're right, of course - it starts with choosing pink for girls and blue for boys by default and ends with open bashing and inability to see through these simplified categories we, as a society, created. It's a bizzare, bizzare world. *sigh*

[nicole_anell]

1) Aaaaah, that drives me nuts! Gay or straight, it's not that weird for kids to do things like that. If she's just playing, doctor's being a moron and imposing adult sexuality on it. And if she does want to kiss girls when she's older? You are teaching her that's not okay.

2) Yeah, I still haven't quite figured out the logic where it's increasingly okay for girls to be tomboys, wear pants, play sports, etc. but it's completely horrifying and gay for a boy to do anything 'girly'. I mean, I suspect it's that femininity is seen as weak and not valued - of COURSE girls would want to be more like boys, but the other way around is sick.

[thevera]

Ah, good point - applying adult sexuality on child's play is really off.

You are teaching her that's not okay.

Yeah, I don't think she'd been particulary worried about that. I mean, I've had my own unpleasant episode with her when she found out I was a vegetarian. She railed at me about how awful was that, how I was gonna be seriously ill and infertile... I was too shamefaced to stand up to myself or tell her I didn't even want to have children (hell, that would just add up some anti-childfree stances to the mix).

My point is, finding a non-homophobic, non-heterosexist person over 30 seems kinda hard.

[joospjos]

Yeah, I totally agree. It's so annoying to see how hypocritical people still are about gender,- even in the queer community. :(
Although something that just gnawed my mind: Did you hear the entire conversation in no. 1? Maybe Tony was the doctor's son or something? Maybe I'm missing some vital pop-cultural reference here but it just seems like such a random name to mention. :P

[thevera]

... even in the queer community. :(

Oh yeah, that irritates me endlessly... Seeing minority bashing within a minority; unfortunately, that happens quite a lot.

Maybe Tony was the doctor's son or something?

Not the case. I should've mentioned that the names were actually Czech and I really just picked random English names that crossed my mind, so that's why it probably seems random to you. :) And yeah, for the doctor was only important that it was a boy's name. *sigh*

[joospjos]

Ok, I see. That sucks :( Meh.

[hoshinekoyasha]

Oh goodness, that is so annoying >:[

[thevera]

Isn't it? I just can't figure out which one's more.

[a2zmom]

Too many people are tied into what society claims as normal gender roles. My kids never bought into that and they seem to have turned out fine.

[thevera]

Unfortunately true. I wish the world had more parents like you.