The Tudors - Season 4, Episode 3.

[doodledolly]

I didn't see a reaction post pop up on my feed, so I hope this is alright... I'm dying to discuss it!

Season 4, Episode 3 - thoughts?

Spoilers in the comments...

Comments

[doodledolly]

Not sure where Henry's coldness & general disinterest in Catherine suddenly came from.

I think it was his sudden interest in Anne of Cleves. He mentioned in the previous episode that he liked her after all (Dang! If only he'd realised that sooner/history hadn't got in the way, then Cromwell might not have had to lose his head...). I was expecting it to happen - I'd seen him propositioning her in the preview - and didn't mind seeing it happen (I was so beyond against Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves, but I actually think she's done brilliantly!), but I'm not quite sure what the writers are intending to do with it now that it's actually happened - especially now that they've headed North. I think the intention is that Catherine will find out about it, and then in her own naive way she'll think it's okay to have an affair if the King's having an affair... blah, blah blah.

[doodledolly]

Oh I completely agree - historically, it was VERY inaccurate. Wasn't she given the title of the 'King's Sister?' I don't know that much about what Anne's life/relationship with Henry was like after the annulment, other than the fact she was given a lot of money and property. I think after Catherine Howard's death the subject of Henry remarrying Anne might have come up - but obviously, he said 'no.'

There was no solid proof that she and Culpepper ever had sexual relations.

Weren't there letters?

[doodledolly]

Oh my God, I completely forgot to mention... Where in the hell was Charles during this episode?!

[henchxnarf]

Charles has been lacking lately! lol Which makes me sad.

[doodledolly]

He has! The only appearance he made in this episode was in the titles! Boo!

What happened to his wife? Is she still around?

[henchxnarf]

The red hair came from Henry. She is always described with red hair. Even in The Other Boleyn Girl.

In a lot of things I've read about Henry, he had 'bits of red in his hair' even when he began to grey

[doodledolly]

I found the bit in the Church interesting too - I was half expecting Catherine to tackle Mary to the ground up until she noticed Culpeper staring at her. I found the non-pregnancy cute and tragic too - the way she ran all the way to see Henry to tell him about it. From the way they set Catherine's character up towards the end of Season 3, I didn't think I was going to like her at all - but Tamsin's doing a fabulous job at getting the audience to sympathise with her.

I was really expecting Anne of Cleves to politely say no to Henry in her very cute, nervous way, and was a bit surprised when they flashed to that scene of them in bed together.

I think they sort of had to give Elizabeth her famous red hair. They couldn't have had a brunette or a blonde pretending to be her - it wouldn't have washed with the audience. With adults, I think you get used to seeing them with different colouring than is historically accurate (e.g. Anne Boleyn had brown eyes, Natalie has blue, Henry without his red hair etc...) as it's their portrayal of

[balesloveslave]

I liked the episode, but I was extremely disappointed with the lack of Charles Brandon. I need MOAR Henry Cavill!!! I really enjoyed the scene with King Henry and his son, talking about his mother. When he showed his father the thimble, and the King kissed it...it was emotional. I liked seeing that side of King Henry. I too had my doubts about Joss Stone playing Anne of Cleves, but she really does a nice job. I have been pleasantly surprised.

[gxxx]

As far as the TV show is concerned, I absolutely hate Catherine and can't wait til she and Culpepper get axed. He's a rapist and she annoying. She acts like such a child. Granted she is 15, but I thought people had more respect and maturity back then - especially since she's suppose to be the queen!