Dungeons & Dragons 4th

Jun 09, 2008 08:56

So I got my sparkly new D&D 4th Player's Handbook on Friday. It's more or less what I expected. Had I not been expecting this, I'd have been highly disapointed ( Read more... )

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seriouspaul June 9 2008, 17:03:25 UTC
It's like an echo, only faintly distorted...

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themoocow June 9 2008, 18:20:14 UTC
Indeed. Great minds and all that. ;)

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thatcash June 9 2008, 20:59:39 UTC
I'm sorry, that comment was too insightful and intelligent. 4.0 is not for you.

4.0 has caused my group to go back to Shadowrun...

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seriouspaul June 9 2008, 21:35:29 UTC
See it was a different 4.0 that made my group leave Shadowrun...

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salvation122 June 9 2008, 22:29:03 UTC
I don't like it. However, I understand what they're doing. They're trying to get folks to make the jump from WoW to table-top.

No, they're getting rid of all the fucking bullshit that made D&D a pain in the ass to play while holding on to the good stuff.

Did we really need like three different skills for Perception checks? Or random HP? Or high-level encounters that were done in two rounds, because of the stupid-brokenness of Save or Die spells? Should I really have to fuck with whether or not something is a supernatural ability or a spell or a mind-affecting spell-like ability? In what grim bureaucratic hell is that fun?

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themoocow June 10 2008, 00:05:47 UTC
No, they're getting rid of all the fucking bullshit that made D&D a pain in the ass to play while holding on to the good stuff.Right, that's a crock of shit. They may have gotten rid of a bunch of confusing rules, which is fine, but they also made the game so ridiculously simplistic as to be retarded. I'm sorry, but the idea that people are simply "trained" or "not trained" is stupid. The idea that if I'm a good pick pocket, I'm also a good lock picker, is very stupid. The idea that all magi in the universe carry either a wand, or an orb, or a staff is very, very stupid. The idea that all characters, in the entire universe, who are level 10 have exactly the same number of encounter powers (or daily powers, utility powers, etc), is very, very, very stupid ( ... )

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salvation122 June 10 2008, 05:50:54 UTC
So basically you're upset because you can't make characters that don't suck enough.

Um. Okay.

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themoocow June 10 2008, 13:53:17 UTC
Basically. I'm not "upset", I just don't like it. I can put all the D&D books I own into a single backpack, so I'm not terribly invested in it. It's a "hot topic" so to speak in the gaming world, so I thought I'd toss my two cents in.

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