you're finally at the point where you can get past the self-sacrifice/revenge mindset that's been destroying you for so long.
Clearly the reason it ends bloody or sad for so many hunters is because they're broken people stuck in some vicious circle of self-sacrifice/revenge. Apparently it isn't being up to your neck in blood all day that destroys your soul.
Anyway, since we've moved on to the hunting monsters = fighting Nazis phase of our story, where our hero finds his true and noble purpose, I guess maybe fandom can shut-up about how there's no hope left in the story. *headdesk*
All I see is HOPE. Wheeeee!
it's flopping all over the place
It's humid. You can tell because it's wavy and extra pretty. Though, much like Sam himself, his hair is a bit of a mystery. Maybe he can't tell he needs a haircut because Lucifer is messing with his mind? Though why Dean hasn't said anything is beyond me.
but I wish I knew more about what's going onI know, right? *sigh* Still. Sam! Interacting with a secondary character! With whom he has
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Apparently it isn't being up to your neck in blood all day that destroys your soul.
You know, I think you're right. Although it doesn't help the situation get better, either. It just intensifies what you bring to it.
All I see is HOPE. Wheeeee!
Like this. EXACTLY! Wheeeeeeeeee!
It's humid. You can tell because it's wavy and extra pretty.
... Clearly there's an entire science to this that I simply don't understand.
Sam! Interacting with a secondary character! With whom he has a history! Be still my heart.Question - do you see this as a writerly bias, or a function of Sam's personality, or some combination of both? I mean, I know the writers love having Dean get out there and interact with all these different people, but then I've also always seen him as more gregarious. Often it feels like Sam lets him take that role because he's just not that interested in establishing anything with people, very much. He's always kept a lot to himself
( ... )
... Clearly there's an entire science to this that I simply don't understand.
That, or one of us spends waaay too much time focused on Sam's hair.
I'm assuming you mean someone with whom he has had onscreen history
Yeah sorry, I meant a recurring secondary character with some emotional connection to Sam or Dean. Jody is, at this point, an inner-circle character, like Ellen, Jo, Cas, or Bobby. Every one of these characters has been more connected to Dean, so I was kind of stunned to suddenly have that scene with Jody and Sam talking about Bobby.
do you see this as a writerly bias, or a function of Sam's personality, or some combination of both?
Dean is the one who's more open, so I definitely think it comes from character, and not any writerly bias. There are valid reasons Sam has fewer connections, and it makes absolute sense. It's occasionally frustrating, is all, but that's just because I want more Sam.
He's always kept a lot to himself
Totally. They don't give us Sam the way they do Dean. We get him in looks, and
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And I love that about her. She is honestly up there rivalling my very favourite minor characters by now. And you know what else I love about it? I was thinking more about how Ness's presence and impact is coloured by the fact that he didn't get into hunting for revenge, that it was the right thing to do, that it was the extension of what he already did rather than a catastrophic reversal of his life - and then I realised Jody is the same way. Yes, she lost her husband and son, but that wasn't what made her get into the life. The reason she's in the life is the same as Ness - she's discovered this world is out there and just by virtue of who she is, she can't sit by and let people die. She got the bug. Neither she nor Ness are caught in that revenge cycle. \o/
But she also recognised that Sam didn't need guidance, or mentoring - Sam needs a mother. Sam's always needed a mother. I can't tell you how much I love the extended family the boys are slowly accumulating around them.
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Clearly the reason it ends bloody or sad for so many hunters is because they're broken people stuck in some vicious circle of self-sacrifice/revenge. Apparently it isn't being up to your neck in blood all day that destroys your soul.
Anyway, since we've moved on to the hunting monsters = fighting Nazis phase of our story, where our hero finds his true and noble purpose, I guess maybe fandom can shut-up about how there's no hope left in the story. *headdesk*
All I see is HOPE. Wheeeee!
it's flopping all over the place
It's humid. You can tell because it's wavy and extra pretty. Though, much like Sam himself, his hair is a bit of a mystery. Maybe he can't tell he needs a haircut because Lucifer is messing with his mind? Though why Dean hasn't said anything is beyond me.
but I wish I knew more about what's going onI know, right? *sigh* Still. Sam! Interacting with a secondary character! With whom he has ( ... )
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You know, I think you're right. Although it doesn't help the situation get better, either. It just intensifies what you bring to it.
All I see is HOPE. Wheeeee!
Like this. EXACTLY! Wheeeeeeeeee!
It's humid. You can tell because it's wavy and extra pretty.
... Clearly there's an entire science to this that I simply don't understand.
Sam! Interacting with a secondary character! With whom he has a history! Be still my heart.Question - do you see this as a writerly bias, or a function of Sam's personality, or some combination of both? I mean, I know the writers love having Dean get out there and interact with all these different people, but then I've also always seen him as more gregarious. Often it feels like Sam lets him take that role because he's just not that interested in establishing anything with people, very much. He's always kept a lot to himself ( ... )
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That, or one of us spends waaay too much time focused on Sam's hair.
I'm assuming you mean someone with whom he has had onscreen history
Yeah sorry, I meant a recurring secondary character with some emotional connection to Sam or Dean. Jody is, at this point, an inner-circle character, like Ellen, Jo, Cas, or Bobby. Every one of these characters has been more connected to Dean, so I was kind of stunned to suddenly have that scene with Jody and Sam talking about Bobby.
do you see this as a writerly bias, or a function of Sam's personality, or some combination of both?
Dean is the one who's more open, so I definitely think it comes from character, and not any writerly bias. There are valid reasons Sam has fewer connections, and it makes absolute sense. It's occasionally frustrating, is all, but that's just because I want more Sam.
He's always kept a lot to himself
Totally. They don't give us Sam the way they do Dean. We get him in looks, and ( ... )
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And I love that about her. She is honestly up there rivalling my very favourite minor characters by now. And you know what else I love about it? I was thinking more about how Ness's presence and impact is coloured by the fact that he didn't get into hunting for revenge, that it was the right thing to do, that it was the extension of what he already did rather than a catastrophic reversal of his life - and then I realised Jody is the same way. Yes, she lost her husband and son, but that wasn't what made her get into the life. The reason she's in the life is the same as Ness - she's discovered this world is out there and just by virtue of who she is, she can't sit by and let people die. She got the bug. Neither she nor Ness are caught in that revenge cycle. \o/
But she also recognised that Sam didn't need guidance, or mentoring - Sam needs a mother. Sam's always needed a mother. I can't tell you how much I love the extended family the boys are slowly accumulating around them.
Dean is ( ... )
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