Comments | theguiterrorist: HRC: "Foot, meet mouth, again."

theguiterrorist

HRC: "Foot, meet mouth, again."

May 13, 2006 22:22

Goddamn, Hillary Clinton must have the most incredible tin ear when it comes to the Democratic base...accuse twenty-somethings of being lazy and expecting $50-75K a year out of college, say they don't earn their way up and that they consider work a four-letter word ( Read more... )

generation gap, democrats, bad ideas

Comments 9

squorch May 14 2006, 07:15:23 UTC

Um, she went to Yale Law and passed the bar. She gave the speech at her own commencement in college, which was published in Life. There's more at Wikipedia. She's done a good bit.

theguiterrorist May 14 2006, 15:52:32 UTC

Plenty of people go to Yale and pass the bar.

Commencement I'll give her.

Does that give her the leg to stand on to act like just another bitter boomer? Sure, she worked on campaigns and was itnerested in politics before meeting Bill, but her entire political career is due to her marriage.

dogofthefuture May 14 2006, 09:07:07 UTC

Fair play to Squorch, but Hilary is still wrong. For one, the Internet bubble is done. You can't make huge salaries just by knowing a bit of PERL any more. And, to be fair, the kids of my generation (yeah, they were just a bit younger than me mostly but still largely of my generation, I think) worked their asses off ( ... )

byrneout May 15 2006, 01:02:49 UTC

Don't you dare let them hear you call them "secretaries."

not following here letsgomiah May 14 2006, 20:34:53 UTC

"But seriously, from someone pulling less than $30K a year with double that in student loans to pay off and pulling over 40 hours each week, I say, fuck you, Hillary."

What does Hillary Clinton have to do with your choosing to take on student debt to pursue an economically deficient (if personally rewarding) career path? If you wanted a "relatively comfortable" $40 or $50 or $75k as a starting point, why did you not choose a career path with a greater chance of giving you that?

Re: not following here errforce1 May 15 2006, 00:45:02 UTC

Well, I can't speak for C., but I'd guess his point is that he doesn't expect everything to be easy.

Re: not following here theguiterrorist May 15 2006, 05:03:44 UTC

Because I didn't think being miserable at work but financially comfotable immediatley was a very fair trade-off.

The rules have changed since Hillary was in her twenties.

byrneout May 15 2006, 01:01:00 UTC

I agree she has a tin ear and that life would be better if she didn't win the nomination in '08 [the prospect, however remote, of another Clinton vs. Bush race just makes me want to climb under the nearest available rock and never come out]. But I think it's petty to criticise her based on the success of her daughter, whom I think should be excluded from the rolls of those who "have not done anything to earn their way up" by virtue of her Oxford degree. [Sure, some people do get degrees via money or fame, but I prefer to believe them earned until proven otherwise, because believing anything else makes me feel tiny and spiteful and envious].

To the extent I've paid attention it it, my experience with Gen Y in the workplace [and particularly in the interview chair] tends to agree with the sense-of-entitlement complaints -- as does your claim that it should be standard to pay people new to the workforce 25 to 87% over what you've deemed enough to be "relatively comfortable."

errforce1 May 15 2006, 01:30:29 UTC

Keep in mind that I say this as someone who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 (true story). So perhaps I shouldn't be taken seriously. That said...

If Hillary Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, please go ahead, hold your nose, and try to vote for her if you have any leanings left of center whatsoever. I'm going to, if it comes to that.