(Note: this was going to be a contribution to an UnCon vidshow, but it got out of hand. Badly out of hand. So I figured I'd post it here and spare all the virtual con-goers a lot of scrolling
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Vid feedback is a subject that fascinates me. And I've definitely been wrong before - see, um, that whole post I just linked for details - about what vidders want and don't want in terms of feedback; like, before I did the project that post describes, I didn't realize just how much live-action vidders didn't get comments or feedback. (Compared to fan fiction, I mean - a story in a given fandom will get way more feedback than a vid of the same quality in the same fandom.) And I also didn't realize how much they wanted those comments, even from uninformed non-vidder types. (Which is what I am.)
But anime vidders have always struck me as a different bunch, and that's not a totally uninformed opinion; I know a couple of them, and they don't seem very interested in "I liked this!" type comments. And, of course, there's the Guide to Opinions, which I've actually read several times (and once - but only once - attempted to follow), and which I tend to summarize in my own mind as, "Leave feedback, damn it. But it had
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I'm feeling more and more like the cranky old guy shouting at the kids on his lawn, but my impression is that the hobby has very suddenly skewed younger as I've gotten older, and brought a lot of teen angst & HS bullshit with it.
*nods*
That's happened here, too. Fortunately, the bifurcation I mentioned means that the kids get a few of their roughest edges knocked off before they come onto my lawn. Still. I know the feeling.
The very first AMVers (mid 80's on) all vaugely knew one another through the daisy-chain tape-trading circles that had cropped up in the 70's
Live-action vidding had this, too, but I have only the vaguest clue about it. Names like "the Media Cannibals" are still spoken in these parts (and their VCR vids have been digitally remastered, so you can see what they did), but I got into vids way after I got into fandom, and I got to fandom after it had already been transformed by the LJ revolution.
The advent of the AMV contests in the mid-to-late 90's, however, meant a place to go and show your work and actually
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Live-action vidding had this, too, but I have only the vaguest clue about it. My bad, I should have been clearer. The difficulties involved in getting Japanese Animation in the US before about 1985 necessitated writing letters across the country to people who had friends in Japan. The Japanese friend would tape something off the TV & send it to their American friends. They would then make copies and trade to other people, shipping VHS tapes across the US. If you were very lucky, the more industrious fans would make up scripts and hard-sub the videos. (I should note that this was all long before my time.) Thus you would try and follow 42-episode series piecemeal at varying levels of translation (or not). The very first AMVers were usually subbers or distributors with access to the right equipment (flying erase heads FTW) who put 'em together for their friend's amusement. Somewhere down the line, they'd just stick the vids on the end of the tapes they were distributing as a free extra for whoever had asked for a copy. They
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Vid feedback is a subject that fascinates me. And I've definitely been wrong before - see, um, that whole post I just linked for details - about what vidders want and don't want in terms of feedback; like, before I did the project that post describes, I didn't realize just how much live-action vidders didn't get comments or feedback. (Compared to fan fiction, I mean - a story in a given fandom will get way more feedback than a vid of the same quality in the same fandom.) And I also didn't realize how much they wanted those comments, even from uninformed non-vidder types. (Which is what I am.)
But anime vidders have always struck me as a different bunch, and that's not a totally uninformed opinion; I know a couple of them, and they don't seem very interested in "I liked this!" type comments. And, of course, there's the Guide to Opinions, which I've actually read several times (and once - but only once - attempted to follow), and which I tend to summarize in my own mind as, "Leave feedback, damn it. But it had ( ... )
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*nods*
That's happened here, too. Fortunately, the bifurcation I mentioned means that the kids get a few of their roughest edges knocked off before they come onto my lawn. Still. I know the feeling.
The very first AMVers (mid 80's on) all vaugely knew one another through the daisy-chain tape-trading circles that had cropped up in the 70's
Live-action vidding had this, too, but I have only the vaguest clue about it. Names like "the Media Cannibals" are still spoken in these parts (and their VCR vids have been digitally remastered, so you can see what they did), but I got into vids way after I got into fandom, and I got to fandom after it had already been transformed by the LJ revolution.
The advent of the AMV contests in the mid-to-late 90's, however, meant a place to go and show your work and actually ( ... )
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