Comments | thefourthvine: Slashy Nominations 86: All the World Is Gen. Except When It's Not.

thefourthvine

Slashy Nominations 86: All the World Is Gen. Except When It's Not.

Oct 06, 2004 17:45

I'm finding it increasingly hard to assemble gen sets. I'm sure, back in the days when Kirk/Spock and slash meant roughly the same thing, it was fairly easy to know if you were reading (or writing) slash. If there was the vaguest overtone of male homosexuality, there you go - slash ( Read more... )

narnia, x-men, [rec theme: gen], harry potter, sports night

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moireach October 6 2004, 19:06:56 UTC

Oh man, oh man, I've read The Queen in Exile about a trillion times and it never ever gets any less *amazing* and, yeah, completely brutal. Fangirl like whoa.

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 06:44:29 UTC

Oh, god, I know. I've been waiting to rec it for a while, because it is just so - unsparingly, unrelentingly cruel. And yet so, so good. I'm all in awe of the author.

zeelee_penguin October 6 2004, 19:18:11 UTC

What do I call a story involving any of the Ultimate universes (apparent editorial slogan: "Stan Lee is dead. Bring on the gay!")?

It's funny 'cause it's *true.*

Thanks for the Narnia rec. I'm trying to get up the courage to read it, because man, the canon hurt me badly enough just by being *itself.*

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 06:47:23 UTC

Let me know if you get up the courage to read "Queen." I'm not going to try to influence you one way or the other, at least, not beyond recommending it, because it really is painful. But good. But ouchy! But so damn good.

If you do read it, though, I'd love to know what you thought. (It's short. Does that help?)

And, yeah, Lewis deserves the "Warper of Children" award for the Narnia series. I see now that the man had issues.

zeelee_penguin October 7 2004, 11:11:50 UTC

I did read it.

Wah. I. Oh, man. I'm just going to sit over here and sniffle for a bit.

I agree with Philip Pullman when it comes to C.S. Lewis: the man was so terrified of his children characters growin up and dealing with scary adult things like OMGSEX that he KILLED THEM OFF instead. The only one that grew up, Susan, didn't get into Heaven. Bah.

sienamystic October 7 2004, 18:58:17 UTC

Ouch. Well, that was bleak, and powerful. But I seem to be one of the only non-Lewis haters around here - he didn't particularly traumatize me, and I loved the books. I never thought that Susan didn't get to Heaven because she became an adult, but because she started placing frivolous things like lipstick and nylons above being a good person. I got the sense from the books that she was constantly patting Lucy on the head, and saying "Dear little girl, I can't believe you think all that silly Narnia stuff was *real*," and using really dripping, sarcastic tones. I don't think Lewis realized quite how painful being sent back into childhood after being a Queen would be. Plus, I love his theological writing. Most of all, I think I still sort of resent Susan Cooper's "and then they all forgot about the magic" a little more than anything Lewis did (perhaps because the Dark is Rising books mean more to me).

_redpanda_ October 6 2004, 19:41:32 UTC

"The Queen In Exile" just destroyed me. Urk.

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 06:48:26 UTC

*holds _redpanda_*

I'm thinking forming a "Queen in Exile Survivors" support group, actually. Wanna join?

_redpanda_ October 7 2004, 09:53:04 UTC

I'm in. If I can stop wibbling long enough to attend the first meeting.

My Narniafic is happy! My Narniafic is happy! My Narniafic is happy! Will resist urge to write wrenchinglysadNarniafic!!! *clings to it desperately*

zebra363 October 6 2004, 23:07:46 UTC

as I tentatively poke at the second season of Sports Night

Come on, be brave! With the angst comes some of the best Dan/Casey moments.

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 06:50:48 UTC

But, but, but - angst! I'm not good with angst!

Especially when it comes to Danny and Casey, who, in my world, are happy together for all eternity and no one can tell me otherwise. I cleave unto this belief, and none shall rend me from it. Not even Sorkin himself, dammit.

(Although wine and spackle? Best. Gift. Ever. Right there, I felt love for Danny welling up inside.)

zebra363 October 7 2004, 07:13:33 UTC

I'm not good with angst!

Says the person who just recced The Queen in Exile! Which I enjoyed very much, by the way.

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 07:51:38 UTC

"The Queen in Exile" goes well beyond angst, I think. And it's not like I handled that well, either; my dog is probably still wondering why she got squeezed so hard when I first read it.

But at least "Queen" didn't feature bad things happening to Danny and Casey, my Happy Pairing. (You know, the pairing you read when you've just read some gut-wrenching, agonizing story - like, for example, "The Queen in Exile." The pairing that makes it all better.) The very concept of angsty sadness with Danny and Casey causes my brain to lock up in terror. Hence the wary approach to season two. (But, when I finish season two? I am so doing a FIHL for SN.)

geneticallydead October 6 2004, 23:26:54 UTC

(and oh my god I never thought of the similarities between Xavier/Magneto and Beecher/Keller before, and I never want to again)

bwhahahaha.

now I'm scared. thanks for the rec:)

thefourthvine October 7 2004, 06:53:40 UTC

No, no, no! Now that you've quoted that line back to me and I've read it out of context, my brain is shrieking, "Crossover, crossover!" And it's not like anyone is ever going to write that.

Hell, it's not like anyone should write that. And yet now I want to read it.

Dammit. This is my fault, actually, but can I blame you anyway? Having an unsatisfiable bunny is bad enough without knowing it's your own damn fault.