Osama bin Laden killed

[thedr9wningman]

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that." - MLK

Alright, so we're no better than those who want to kill us.  Now the jihad will continue under a different leader.  What next?

Of course, I have little love for Osama bin Laden, a fundamentalist, ignorant, hateful person.  But when one looks at things from his perspective, they see a

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[sop4pcrest]

"We're not proving our compassion; just our ability to exact hate when presented with it."

In the case of Bin Laden, I am OK with this.

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"You can't stop these movements by killing the leaders"

True enough, but he needed to die none the less.

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"I cross my fingers for a peaceful path..."

Now that the big guy is dead, I think it's time. How do we leave though? Do we just pack up and fly home? Do we wait until the country is stable?

[thedr9wningman]

Being a slave to hate only makes you a slave to hate.

Killing Osama is just asking for the cycle to continue. Look at Israel: It is just one revenge killing after another. I know you won't believe me, but this solves nothing. What solves things is what has been going on in the Middle East since March: grassroots revolution.

Killing anyone just proves that there is no moral higher ground.

Do we just pack up and fly home? Do we wait until the country is stable?I have a question for you. Say you went to the casino with your friends. And you ran out of money. And one of your friends is a gambling addict. For the last two days you've been waiting for him to break even. And he's not. Double-down after double-down he's losing. Every once in a while he'll win 5000$, but he's still in the hole 45,000$ (his annual paycheck

[sop4pcrest]

"Killing Osama is just asking for the cycle to continue. Look at Israel: It is just one revenge killing after another. I know you won't believe me, but this solves nothing."

It may not solve anything, but what should we have done?

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I want out of Afghanistan as much as anybody, but how will it look if we leave the country before it is stable? We made a mess. Isn't it our responsibility to clean up the mess before we leave? I don't have the answer to that. I'm just saying we are in a shitty situation. There is no good choice.

[thedr9wningman]

Our presence in the country is the mess.

And I would like to point out that Bush's decisions are the ones we have inherited and that has put us into the no-win.

To me, it is an easier decision: Our presence exacerbates the situation (which is the perception that we're hegemonic, colonising dicks who kill brown people) and is expensive, leading to domestic problems. Getting out of foreign wars is a win-win.