H50 Ep: Ku I Ka Pili Koko

[the_other_sandy]

You know how I started last episode's post with how I saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier and it was awesome? I'm starting this post the same way because I just saw the movie again for the second time in a week and it's still awesome. Sorry, Steve, but I love another Steve.

Comments

[superbadgirl]

The thing with Danny is - that's Steve's perception of him, the "afraid of everything" thing. But where the rubber hits the road, Danny gets it done. Always. Aside from his panicked baseball lineup thing, he was not freaking out nearly as much as a claustrophobic person would as their surroundings got smaller and smaller. Danny's a fatalist, but he isn't a coward. Hell, I am always saying, "oh, that's no good, that won't work, I totally tanked that test" so that when it was good, it did work and I aced the test, it seemed that much sweeter. I dunno, I guess I'm not normal either.

Still, sometimes I want to shake him. ;)

Totally with you on the rebar thing. I know this show isn't about realism, but it would have been just as dramatic had Steve ... I dunno, had to stop Danny from trying to yank it out on impulse, rather than have the injured one be right about leaving it in and having the trained Navy SEAL explain how it had to come out to avoid infection. (Because a gaping hole in one's side covered with a dirty T-shirt and duct tape

[the_other_sandy]

Small "TV DRAMA!!" things that are ultimately plain stupid.

Everyone has their pet peeves and grievously bad information is one of mine. This isn't like the time the murderer hid under a trap door in the floor and was magically able to replace the rug covering the trap door after he'd already sealed himself beneath it. That was just bad writing. Removing the rebar and the random frantic digging are both actively dangerous and could actually cause someone's death.

The thing is, people do things they see on TV all the time. There's a famous video showing people taking shelter from a tornado under an overpass. People saw that on TV and came to believe that overpasses were the best place to shelter from a tornado when they are in fact among the worst, which led to a whole rash of deaths in circumstances that had never been a problem before. People have actually left safer shelter to hide under an overpass and died because of it

[superbadgirl]

Oh, I was agreeing with you. In this day and age when common sense is out the window and actual education is in the tanker, the last thing we really need to be doing is glorifying stupid things on TV for the sake of drama. I'm sure it would come as quite a shock to some that CPR isn't the miracle cure TV shows would lead you to believe, and that even a minor concussion will knock a regular person on his/her ass for a good long while.

It's a fine line. Being a realist is often seen as pessimism. As for Danny, well - dude really does need to stop with the raincloud thing if the guy who lost his mother, lost his father, regained his mother, has an archenemy who should have lost his father but actually lost his mother, has PTSD (oddly untriggered by this latest big trauma - it's Hollywood Pick And Choose time - or any other foundational event, never mind that tangent) is the one skipping through life tossing daisy petals on the ground as the walks. ;)

[the_other_sandy]

Sorry. I actually knew you were agreeing with me. Apparently I just wasn't done having Feelings. Like I said, this is a huge pet peeve with me and this episode stompled all over it.

the guy who lost his mother, lost his father, regained his mother, has an archenemy who should have lost his father but actually lost his mother, has PTSD (oddly untriggered by this latest big trauma - it's Hollywood Pick And Choose time - or any other foundational event, never mind that tangent) is the one skipping through life tossing daisy petals on the ground as the walks

Yeah, but it's not like Steve has ever dealt with any of that stuff in a healthy, adjusted way. He just locks it all in a box and pretends it isn't there. Danny may spray his feelings all over the place, but at least he gets it all out of his system and then moves on.

[mangacat201]

YES YES YES, I was screaming at Steve the whole way through that impromptu 'operation'... but hey, Danny was also surprisingly light on his feet considering the fact he'd had about 300 pounds of concrete lying on his leg for a time there. But hey, the Hollywood miracle like those EMTs that basically just vanished out of the shot to leave them to their happy reunion scene instead of going 'fuck off, let us do our job and give these blown-up guys some medical assistance'. Aw shucks, I don't care they said I love you to each other, and I HOPE that Lenkov is apologizing with that big time.

Well, anyway, I haven't rewatched Cap (yet) but I went and viewed secretlytodream's latest vid, because that's what I do with all her vids, and that was a mistake because then I had to go spend four hours of my evening that I didn't have reading Steve/Bucky fic, cause pining. OH GOD.

[kahuna_burger]

After the ep, I said to my husband, Today I learned that you should remove an impaled object and that a person with possible broken ribs and whose leg was pinned under enough weight to need a lever to move (and moving it was exremely painful) can walk it off.

[mangacat201]

I totally agree with the assessment that way too many people learn about important stuff from a TV show (Hey, I'm totally guilty of throwing on-screen facts around without fact-checking. But then, I am an intelligent academic with doctor friends. They know shit. And I know shit.)... producers should at least adhere to the basic sense of responsibility before they throw the playbook on reality and science out of the window. Shit you can do with science and a little proper research is WAY TO COOL NOT BE DONE RIGHT.

[the_other_sandy]

Unfortunately, you are not everyone. The story about people dying under overpasses during tornadoes was not something I made up or an urban legend. Ask any meteorologist how they feel about that video I linked earlier in the comments. Also, ask any trial lawyer how they feel about working with juries now that everyone watches CSI and thinks it's an accurate portrayal of forensic science.

[horndog333]

Ok. This episode has so much potential for McDanno as did the bomb episode. I could do without Danny's high pitched hysterical laugh that we first heard with the bomb episode. Even my 12 year old daughter (yes, she knows I read and write fan fics - BAD MOM)kept saying there was going to be a lot of fan fiction after THIS episode

[the_other_sandy]

Finally they are actually talking and spending time with each other

I know! I wish I knew why they were squandering that screen chemistry. Alex and Lenkov keep saying Steve and Danny's friendship is the heart of the show, and CBS used to advertise it as a selling point. Remember the Don't Call It a Bromance ad from season 1? Now they barely speak to each other.

I thought they'd stick to more the hurt Danny and true best friend, Steve, trying to comfort him.

So did I. I hate it when characters get a major injury and then basically act like it's a papercut for the rest of the episode. I wanted to lock all the writers in a room and make them watch old episodes of Emergency!.

This whole Doris backstory is getting really old already.

Since Show is so big on things happening off screen, I say let Doris clean up her own messes off screen and let Steve concentrate on his own issues, of which he has many.

Isn't she a little young for Danny?Different strokes, I guess. If Danny is in his mid-thirties (I'm guessing) and Amber is 10 years

[horndog333]

I had to laugh at your reference to Emergency! You are dating yourself :) I can't remember cast because for some reason I get the cast mixed up right now with Adam 12. I'll be 50 in June if you feel so inclined to mentioning your age. :).

I like that you call it a paper cut after all he did have a cement block on his leg and a stake (I forget what to call it) hanging out of his side. Steve should have had to possibly fire fighter carry him even though that would produce more pain for Danny. Either that or leave him behind, get help and bring the cavalry back like in that Steve fell down the cliff episode. Oh well, I guess I need to get a life when I can sit and contemplate this stuff instead of work on bills, filing, laundry or writing fan fiction.

[the_other_sandy]

I'll be 45 in July. I don't actually remember the first episode of E! I ever saw. I've basically been watching it my whole life. John Gage was one of my first crushes (along with Davy Jones of The Monkees) when I was in preschool.

[bookwurm]

I finally got around to watching this episode, after not having enough time/inclination for over a week. Steve and Danny actually getting screen time was good, but the way Steve kept harping on Danny ruined a lot of it for me. Seriously, would it have killed the guy to admit that he was wrong about jumping all over this supposed gun deal when it became blindingly obvious that it was a set up? Also, since when is Steve the one singing "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

[the_other_sandy]

There were some major disappointments with this episode. I can only fantasize about what it would have been like if it had been done in season 1.

I just ended up being in a forgiving mood because it was so nice to finally see Steve & Danny acting like friends. Plus I was still on a high from seeing Winter Soldier for the second time. There will be a third time.

[ext_2276908]

I'm with you for the inaccurate medical aspect and I don' like Amber (first of all she's too young........better: the relationship is doomed).But I think this episode very good for Steve and Danny relationship.You can see the lingering glace of Steve on Danny during all the episode and, in particular, at the end. Two things are clear:
Steve is struggling with an "impossible" love
Steve want the best for the most important person in his life.
So classical, so right.
Correction: the show writers want us to believe so
Sorry for my english

[the_other_sandy]

It was just so nice to see them acting like friends again. There hasn't been nearly enough of that lately.