Ideas Dump

Nov 18, 2014 17:00

The last couple of weeks have been pretty sucktastic and I can't say I want to dwell on them, so instead I am going to share with you the contents of a notebook that I have mentally entitled Fics I Wish Existed But Don't Want To Write (But Maybe I'll Write When I've Finished Soul But Probably Not ( Read more... )

bunny, pairing: buffy/spike, navel-gazing, writing, trigger warning, wishful thinking

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Tuesday, November 18 livejournal November 19 2014, 02:56:47 UTC
User rbfvid referenced to your post from Tuesday, November 18 saying: [...] [Fandom Discussion] Ideas Dump (Fics I Wish Existed But Don't Want To Write) [...]

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rahirah November 19 2014, 03:09:50 UTC
I'm pretty sure that several variations on that Spike and Joyce one exist. There's a ton of Spuffy time travel stories too, and a whole subgenre of them devoted to Buffy and/or Spike going back in time to fix things, and at least a few of them ought to be pretty close to what you're looking for. It's been an age since I read them, and a lot of the old fic archives have disappeared, but it might be work searching on AO3.

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the_moonmoth November 26 2014, 22:55:11 UTC
I'm pretty sure that several variations on that Spike and Joyce one exist.

I am too, I've just never come across them :)

There's a ton of Spuffy time travel stories too, and a whole subgenre of them devoted to Buffy and/or Spike going back in time to fix things, and at least a few of them ought to be pretty close to what you're looking for.

Time travel is one of my big kinks, so I've read pretty much everything I can find on this theme, and there's nothing quite as interestingly non-linear out there as what I have in mind.

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fenchurche November 19 2014, 06:41:46 UTC
I need to remember to look through my stash of fic when I get home. I've read a few that don't quite fit what you've described for #1, but probably come close. I've *definitely* read fic that fit #2 (at least one of which is a favorite of mine that I reread on a regular basis and for some stupid reason I'm drawing a blank right at the moment.

I would rather like to read #2A, as well.

I've read fic sort of similar to #3, although usually there were alternate dimensions involved.

And as for #4, I'm thinking there are a few that would fit the bill, even if they're not exactly what you're describing (all of them older fic... written Season 2 and Season 3 timeframe, before the show's actual mythos had gotten fleshed out).

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fenchurche November 19 2014, 06:44:04 UTC
Aha! I remembered one of the ones for #2: Dispose the Day by Sersi and Cylla.

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the_moonmoth November 26 2014, 22:57:43 UTC
Thanks for the rec!

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the_moonmoth November 26 2014, 22:57:27 UTC
I've read fic sort of similar to #3, although usually there were alternate dimensions involved.

One of the things I would absolutely love would be if some clever soul figured out how to do it without creating an alternate dimension or actually altering anything at all. Like somehow it had all happened as it did the first time (blech, that sentence makes sense in my head...)

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rebcake November 19 2014, 08:31:18 UTC
Yeah, what Barb said. I have a few Ground Hog Day/Time Traveler's Wife (not familiar with source material, so I'm just going by your description) fic recs for you, should you be interested:

Fixing the Factors by immortalspuffy
Domino Effect by anaross

Those are the two "repeating days" that come to mind, but there are a whole bunch of good Spuffy time-travel stories out there.

I also love Spike and Joyce backstory. I've written a few stories that have that as a central point, and have read many others that do a fantastic job. I just checked the "Joyce Summers" and "Spike (BtVS)" character tags at AO3 and a whole bunch of promising stuff popped up.

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fenchurche November 20 2014, 06:24:40 UTC
Thank you! Those were the other two I was thinking of, but couldn't recall the titles and authors off the top of my head.

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the_moonmoth November 26 2014, 22:59:03 UTC
Thank you! I've actually read both of those, although I'd completely forgotten that fact :D Will definitely re-read now.

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torrilin November 19 2014, 19:42:01 UTC
Slaymesoftly has a bunch of stories that come close to #4. The ones that stick out to me are "Just a Summer Romance", "Double Bubble", "Boy Good" and "Just a Little Spell". None of them are as solidly in a I hate you but we're stuck mode tho as what you're imagining. She is not good at eeeeeeeevil Spike, so if you want a scary murderer, these fics will probably strike you as pretty fluffy. I tend to think of her as the Queen of "kinder, gentler" stories, and I really enjoy the way she tends to approach consent issues ( ... )

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the_moonmoth November 26 2014, 23:13:11 UTC
Thanks for the slaymesoftly recs. I don't think I've actually read any of her stuff yet so I will definitely hit those.

The overall shape of #4 is something I'd very much like, since it's pretty much a giant pile of my favorite things. Since it is pretty much me-nip, I have read a lot of stuff that features an accidental/forced claim that I'd be uncomfortable praising. Lots of oogy "men are dominant" stuff seems to come out to play, and a lot of it is very rapey.

Right? And I actually like and enjoy dubcon/sex-magic/spells-made-them-do-it scenarios, and even some non-con scenarios, but I kind of want the author to own it for what it is, otherwise you inevitably end up with character A trying to excuse character B's actions, which I actually find kind of worse than the original scenario.

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torrilin November 26 2014, 23:43:28 UTC
I'm not sure how I'd mark down my preferences on rapey stuff. I've read a *lot* of pre-RWA-fights-back romance novels (and old SF and and and) so it's not an automatic no. But well... I've read a lot of it. It is hard to do rapey stuff well. I tend to call it rapey stuff rather than non-con/dub-con because fandom seems to mean something entirely different by dub-con than what I mean. Most stuff tagged dub-con I'd tag as "rape". To me dub-con would be like... I've had wine with dinner, my partner has also, and while we don't make things verbally explicit, we've been together for almost 10 years so some of the consent negotiations might seem a little hazy but neither one of us is confused afterwards ( ... )

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