"Last Voyage of the Jimmy Carter".

[the_grynne]

I was rewatching S2 of the Sarah Connor Chronicles on the weekend, which reminded me of just how much I love that show, and noticing some new things, particularly when it comes to Riley and Jesse.

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[missnyah]

I do miss that show. It illustrated so very well how the future is a moving target.

[the_grynne]

Oh, what could have been. I would have loved a Season 3 where we got to see a younger, less cynical John (who hasn't lived through Judgement Day) trying to direct the Resistance, meeting up with an adult Savannah (one of the few people who know who he is), and learning the truth about John Henry. Like, why did Cromartie let Ellison live?

[missnyah]

Yeah, such a brilliant long game building there, so sad it never had the chance to resolve.

[orange_crushed]

God, I miss this show. I can't think of another that treated time this way. And, likewise, few have had quite so much to say on the topic of personal growth, destiny, chance and choice.

Ugh. I still mourn.

[the_grynne]

I wish I had the power to bring that show back by force of mental will, or imagination. I read a virtual season 3 and 4 that someone wrote online, and while it was quite satisfying and thought-provoking in some ways (I would recommend it, anyway), mostly it just made me want the real thing, because I know that the writers could have done it even better.

Also, I'm pretty sure that at least part of the reason why I love John and Cameron so much is that I can relate to them - or at least the way they think and articulate. Their problems and concerns are more comprehensible to me than the mysterious teenage woes of most other TV characters their age.

[rodlox]

>Jesse also had something to teach John, and that thing is his own fallibility.
...and, we could hope, any ensuing season would have had someone sent back to tell us if the new timeline's Future John learned his lesson.

It was a good episode; good character development for Jesse, and a lot of questions got answered. (and some new ones arose)

(though I'm not sure what the series finale meant to show - a Connor-less future?)
(EDIT: the most optimistic explanation for that future, that I can think of...is that, as he grew up (after listening to Jesse, then why Derek killed her), John Connor decided to sit this one out...in that one, he kept to the shadows - either working behind the scenes, or not getting involved)

[the_grynne]

I think the most intuitive explanation is that, in leaping forward in time, John took himself out of the timeline for those years between 2009 and 2027 (or whatever year it was he travelled to). So yes, the John whom we are following has learnt from his encounter with Jesse, and now he has found himself in the future, after judgement day. It is a post apocalyptic future in which few people know about the legend of John Connor (Savannah, Bedell, maybe Jesse if Derek didn't kill her and the older version of her survived). He will have a lot of catching up to do (but given the budgetary constraints of filming the future, I doubt that the writers would have kept John in that timeline for very long, but rather used it as another kind of lesson, both for John and for John Henry, whom I believe would have travelled back in time with John and Cameron).