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Sep 21, 2007 07:28

Oh my, so much to talk about today. First of all I would like to get serious and discuss the whole "Jena Six" issue. I am very upset about this because it is not being handled correctly. The problem is that the "six" who are in trouble beat the living shit out of a white kid. Why, in retaliation for three white kids hanging nooses in a tree. Yes, ( Read more... )

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evansmj September 21 2007, 14:09:43 UTC
10th & Post???

That's my old stomping grounds!! Where is this Papa Roux restaurant? Is it where the Italian restaurant was? Or in that little building that used to be a Little Caesar's Pizza a few years ago?

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anjala September 21 2007, 15:16:52 UTC
I think the Italian restaurant is still there and the old Little Caesar's is now a biker bar. No, I am not kidding.

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evansmj September 21 2007, 15:24:39 UTC
Yeah, I knew the Little Caesar's had been out of business for a while, and the location had a couple tenants (I think there was a grinders place... maybe?) since then. I have no idea how you would fit a bar, let alone space for more than a dozen people, in that small building.

And that Italian restuarant... there's never anyone there! How do they stay in business? My family always theorized that it was a mafia hangout.

So... where's this new restaurant? It must be on the northwest corner of the intersection, then.

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beldar September 21 2007, 15:51:34 UTC
At the NW corner of the intersection is a burgers-and-gyros place called "Yummy's" (which won't be confused with the "Yummy" dim-sum place on the west side as it changed its name to Shen Yang, with same menu). Just down 10th going westward from the intersection is Papa Roux.

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Jena 6 namfle September 21 2007, 17:09:50 UTC
I just want to clarify something here.
My post on the matter.

The 6 youths charged for the assault and battery did NOT attack the victim because of the single incident. The chain of events is a lot, lot longer. The fact is that the "Jena 6" issue is a window into a whole world of racial inequality happening over there.

The main issue behind the Jena 6 debacle is that 6 youths, all two-three years from being legal, were tried as adults. Additionally, the alleged attackers are black, while the jury, judge and prosecutor, and public defender are white. Which shouldn't make a difference any more, granted, but in Jena is still does. And it's been noted by numerous sources (as linked in my post, linked above) that the public defender did not do his job.

It's not about 6 kids over-reacting to a stupid prank, it's about a while racially segregated segment of the town being crushed under the thumb of folk who still think they live in the 60's. This shit has to stop everywhere, and it just happens that this particular trial is the shot ( ... )

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Re: Jena 6 beldar September 22 2007, 05:04:21 UTC
While with the bigoted culture, frustration and racial tension, their actions were understandable, is a six-on-one beatdown ever justifiable? It's sad that it takes this to bring the country's eye to Jim-Crow-land, especially since, as Snack pointed out, the assault on a white person who no doubt everyone thinks had it coming ceded the moral high ground to the bigots.
The attempted murder charge may have been a bit extreme, but not uncommon -- an exaggerated charge can be used to help the prosecution get a verdict or plea bargain for a more appropriate charge. And especially since the Arkansas school shooting when prosecutors didn't have the option, they have been very quick to charge teens as adults, especially in a case that attracts media attention and when a life has been taken or threatened.
But if these kids are going to see any penalty for this, so should the small-town terrorists who perpetrated the "prank" (which in any other context would be a death threat).

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Re: Jena 6 namfle September 22 2007, 07:03:17 UTC
The raw fact is that the 6 black kids beat the hell out of a white kid and are being tried as adults for attempted murder. The raw fact is that for someone who supposedly was beaten badly enough to bring attempted murder, the victim was released from the hospital the same day and was well enough to attend a function later that evening.

I've gotten my ass beat. I didn't want to do anything but lie down for DAYS afterwards. So either the stock over there is hardier, or he didn't get beaten that badly, let alone enough to try a child as an adult for attempted murder. This pattern of over-inforcement of the law is a long standing one, not just in Jena but in similarly segregated towns, dating back to the days of "Separate but Equal ( ... )

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prying_pandora September 22 2007, 00:48:49 UTC
...how on earth did you find vulva cologne?

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the_dark_snack September 24 2007, 11:50:54 UTC
You don't know me very well, do you?

Seriously, I heard about it on the radio.

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