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neu111 June 9 2008, 21:20:36 UTC
That's a terrific post for a terrific movie and a terrific book!

For me both book and movie and book were like a punch in the gut. It's like characters are just alluded to but somehow, you get them, the misery, bad luck, lack of education, lack of money, and even for those who have education and money, twisted feelings, misunderstandings, everybody's so closed in themselves, it hurts. And sparks of love thrown in the mix, again just alluded to, bringing hope and more pain together... I wonder how Callum would have played Jerry, given what he wished for - his performance here is stunning as it is. Jerry wants so hard to make things good and everything's so fucked up in advance. He's been hurt so much before, keeps being hurt all the time, no happy ending's expected, ever. Well, except the one you mention maybe, but still!

Great choice of articles, and your thoughts about the movie are great too. Make me want to re-read the book and re-watch the movie to better appreciate them (tough job!). And read the books before too. Thank you!

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nos4a2no9 June 9 2008, 21:33:24 UTC
Oooh! Thank you so much for the links, and for your insightful and intelligent response. You're exactly right about the book and the film: we just get these little sketches, but we know these characters and their hopes and dreams and histories and futures. The inevitable (and inevitably tragic) ending is so, so sad for poor Jerry. He definitely doesn't fit easily into a poll ticky-box. But thank you for making the attempt :-)

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c_regalis June 9 2008, 21:52:49 UTC
This is a wonderful post! \c/ I love it a lot. JUST LIKE THE MOVIE. Sometimes I have the suspicion that it is mostly the huge Callum Quotient that makes me love it so much, but, well. No. Though it helps. But there's also Michael Hogan! Who's always awesome. And totally is Colonel Tigh in BSG. And Brooke Johnson, who played Loretta, was as the child care lady in Due South in They Eat Horses, Don't They? And David Brown, who played Officer Petrie was also Louis Riel LaFresne in My Life As A Dog. And Rils is played by Brent Stait, who is also Vic Hester in Mountie On The Bounty. *beams* I love Canadian movies, I really do. Most of them.

Also, there is this article (or at least part of it) here. It seems explain a bit about CKR's remarks in the first article you posted.

Okay, off to do the polls.

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nos4a2no9 June 11 2008, 02:25:54 UTC
Heee! C, remind me to never, ever play a game of Canadian Bingo with you ;-) And the movie is excellent, and not just because of the Callum quotient. (Although, wow. That's a lot of Callum, and he is so, so good in this). Thanks for the link to the article! I included it in the original post in case people are curious and want to access the fulltext.

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neu111 June 11 2008, 20:31:51 UTC
That bit of article you linked to is small but meaningful. Both articles pieced together give an interesting take of Callum's feelings towards the movie, first grumpy for being rushed, not playing as he'd like to, and then in hindsight realizing it worked out in spite of it, maybe partly because of it. I think that he has now learned to trust directors - at least some of them - like what he said about his doubts playing in Flower & Garnet or asking to be the director's meatpuppet in Suspicous River <3. And learned also that once words are out, you can't fix them up, and maybe became more cautious...

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karabou June 9 2008, 22:51:37 UTC
I don't know if it counts, but I made some icons from the movie here. :)

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nos4a2no9 June 11 2008, 02:26:33 UTC
Ooh! Great! Thank you so much - I'll add the link to the post.

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callumvixen June 10 2008, 01:00:36 UTC
WONDERFUL AMAZING writeup. Thank you!!!! Very insightful final thoughts too.

One of my fave scenes is when Jerry gives Vera the tiny Christmas present. He is just SO sweet and messed-up and intimidating and protecting all at once.

And yah I sob like a little baby at the end. I love love love this film but the end is SO HARD TO WATCH. *cries* OH JERRY! *CLINGS TIGHT*

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nos4a2no9 June 11 2008, 02:34:49 UTC
Oh yes! That is a VERY good scene! I hate Vera with the fiery passion of a thousand suns, of course, but CKR was brilliant in that bit, and you're right: poor Jerry is a contradiction in every possible way, and yet he's still so compelling. *hugs him*

The ending! *sobs* Why do we hurt ourselves like that, CV? WHY?

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scriggle June 10 2008, 01:18:13 UTC
A most awesome post, Nos. A couple of those articles are new to me. One of these days I may even get around to watching this.

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callumvixen June 10 2008, 01:35:23 UTC
One of these days I may even get around to watching this.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of all people! You! Scriggle! DOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

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scriggle June 10 2008, 01:46:29 UTC
I actually bought what was probably the last VHS copy from the CBC site, oh, 3 years ago now. But, I know it will make me cry so I'm holding off.

I also sort like having one good CKR movie in reserve for future viewing, y'know.

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nos4a2no9 June 11 2008, 02:43:43 UTC
Scrig! You need to watch this one! DO EEEET!

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