Comments | thalia_seawood: My impressions on Pirates of the Caribbean II (DMC)

thalia_seawood

My impressions on Pirates of the Caribbean II (DMC)

Jul 27, 2006 22:59

Yay! Finally, Dead Man's Chest made it to our cinemas as well. Here are my impressions. (Cut for length. This post became much longer than I had expected.)

( Let's start with what I didn't like: )

movie, review, dmc, potc

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thalia_seawood July 28 2006, 13:40:05 UTC

Glad to see you enjoyed my thoughts. I've added some more bits to my analysis now, e.g. expanded the Norrington part.

anonymous July 28 2006, 10:28:27 UTC

Thank you so much for everything you said about Norrington! I was starting to worry I had got him wrong...

thalia_seawood July 28 2006, 13:44:28 UTC

Thanks! I wish I had your email so I could reply properly.

the_stowaway July 28 2006, 11:23:25 UTC

Great essay! Some very interesting insights. I'll be coming back to this one (must go to work now).

thalia_seawood July 28 2006, 13:43:54 UTC

Thanks! I'm looking forward to your thoughts!

qos July 28 2006, 12:50:17 UTC

I really enjoyed this. I agree with what you've written here, especially about Elizabeth. Personally, I think she chained up Jack because she was afraid of the feelings he aroused in her, didn't know how to handle them while still knowing she was in in love with Will, but I like your take too.

I also like your tarot card assessment! Very nice.

thalia_seawood July 28 2006, 13:53:03 UTC

Thanks for the kind words!

It's great that Elizabeth's actions are open to interpretation. Perhaps she isn't sure about her reasons herself, she certainly appears to be torn up about what she does.

I checked out your journal since I like your user name and your icon. Cool! You also identify with the Queen of Swords. QOS is one of my chat nicknames, too. :-) I noticed that one of your user icons appears to be the Stars card from the Blue Moon Tarot, a very beautiful card.

qos July 29 2006, 14:55:59 UTC

You have a gorgeous icon collection yourself!
I love the Mary-El deck, although I don't have any icons from it, and after seeinng "moon" from the Abyssmal Deck, I went over and snagged a few images. Did you create that icon yourself? If so, may I use it?

I don't have any images from the Blue Moon deck -- not to my knowledge anyway. Can you tell me what my name for the icon is?

qos July 29 2006, 14:58:04 UTC

Abyssal deck.
Not Abyssmal.

Yike.

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crossroadsangel July 28 2006, 13:51:58 UTC

Excellent analysis on all counts! *saves to Memories* And thank you for posting the correlation of characters with the tarot. There archetypes are rich meaning between the two. I've been wondering if anyone has actually created a deck, or at least the Major Arcana, with the characters from PoTC. Your analysis is the next best thing. Thanks again for posting this!

thalia_seawood July 28 2006, 15:04:38 UTC

Thanks!!

I'd love to read other views regarding POTC and the tarot. There are still so many cards for which I haven't found a match. Bootstrap Bill could work as the Hanged Man or the Hermit although he wasn't isolated by choice but by force. The Pearl could be the Star or the World. Anamaria would be nice as Strength. The Dutchman would be a twisted version of Death; I'm not happy about the match so because the Death card should also focus on transformation (well, there's a match here considering how they all change to sea creatures :-)) and rebirth. I think the match is too sinister so far.
Well, I see what I think after rewatching the movie and, of course, after POTC comes out.

I wanted to leave a comment on your LJ to something you wrote, but am not on your friends list. I've therefore decided to post my reply here:

You wrote:
And was it just me or was Gibbs the only character who seemed to care for Sparrow (w/out agendas or motives)?My reply ( ... )

crossroadsangel July 28 2006, 23:06:28 UTC

Do you mind if I add you on my friends list? I am curious to see what connection you'll make with AWE and the tarot. I'm still trying to figure who would fit for Temperance, Judgement, and Chariot. I kind of see Norrington also as the King of Swords - not just with intelligence, but also in manners of justice and ethics...though now I suspect he has the Three of Swords in there, too.

It just seemed in the ending of DMC that Gibbs was the only one who didn't have an agenda. Any thoughts as to where he would stand in the tarot?

Thanks again for such an engaging topic! :)

thalia_seawood July 29 2006, 10:01:08 UTC

I've friended you back!

Yes, Temperance, Judgement and Chariot are difficult. I don't think we have seen the perfect match for Temperance yet.
Norrington could also be a match for the Chariot: During CotBP, he has his emotions under control and it's due to his willpower that he has been so successful so far.

I can't really find a match for Gibbs in the Major Arcana. Well, Strength could work for him since he's never aggressive, but quietly assertive. Apart from that he would be a good Knight of Pentacles. He is more superstituous than a Knight of Pentacles would be, though.

Norrington as King of Swords works perfectly.
Regarding the 3 of Swords, a collage would be nice. E.g. Will's look when he sees Elizabeth kissing Jack and/or Norrington's look when he sees Elizabeth and Will kissing and/or Jack realising Elizabeth has trapped him or that the heart is gone. Hey, we may even get a *real* pierced heart, too. :-)