Buffy - Season 6 impressions (episode 8)

Feb 22, 2006 14:45

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spikeylover February 22 2006, 15:04:47 UTC
scattered thoughts ( ... )

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thalia_seawood February 23 2006, 19:08:38 UTC
Someone on my review once made a good point that if Spike/Willow had been paired as was considered in season four, (and kept the personalities that evolved) that she would have completely destroyed Spike..

Yes, agree with this take completely.
The only way I can see Spike/Willow together is if he had turned her into a vampire. They would have made frighteningly successful vampire couple. VampireWillow, IMO, has several traits in common with Drusilla.

Like selenak I think Giles leaving Buffy like this is in character for him. Ever since season 4, there was this theme of Giles intending to leave Buffy for her own good.

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selenak February 22 2006, 16:07:25 UTC
Shark demon: this was also a tongue-in-cheek challenge to the fans who were at that point complaining that Buffy the show had "jumped the shark", i.e. gone bad. So Buffy the character jumps the shark.*g*

This time around I'm quite upset with Giles. Sorry Giles, but things don't work that way. If someone is traumatised and depressed you don't just leave and tell them it will make them stronger. It's rather like telling a drowning person that they just have to tread water harder so they won't drown.

Yes. As spikeylover points out, there was a meta reason for this - i.e. Tony Head wanted to live in England with his family again and hence was only available for some guest star episodes - but as opposed to S., I do think it's a decision which is in character. Completely wrong, but in character. Because Giles has done this before, only in milder forms, see season 4, The Freshman, for example, and because Bargaining in some sense via the scene between Giles and the Buffybot lays the groundworks. If you ask me, Giles just couldn't stand the prospect ( ... )

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spikeylover February 22 2006, 16:45:01 UTC
Interesting and true that you compare Willow and what she does to Tara with Warren/Katrina. I wonder if Whedon, Hannigan or Benson see it quite that way as they are often held up as the most healthy relationship. (Which causes me to scratch my head)

I bet Willow would have turned you into a rat for suggesting such a thing. ;)

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selenak February 22 2006, 18:15:40 UTC
Mmmm, I don't know. I'm currently rewatching season 7 (quite a pleasant experience, I might add, I had forgotten how many episodes and aspects I liked), and The Killer in Me is a quite clear indication that the writers at least were very conscious of the Willow/Warren parallels.

And now I have to be totally vain and have to ask whether you've read me making making the point in fictional form?

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spikeylover February 22 2006, 19:52:32 UTC
Thanks for that. I'll bookmark it.

In the new Buffy DVD sets (with the one extra disc) They talk about relationships, and it's very clear that the writers and Benson feel Willow/Tara were the one to be held up, to which I disagree completely..

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