Comments | thalia_seawood: Brief Note on Buffy, "Fool For Love" (Season 5, Episode 7)

thalia_seawood

Brief Note on Buffy, "Fool For Love" (Season 5, Episode 7)

Nov 21, 2005 11:50

I made the mistake of rewatching Fool For Love yesterday evening.

It's a season five episode, but selenak had showed it to me when introducing me to Buffy. I rewatched it in order to be improve my background knowledge for Wesley- and Spike watching ( Read more... )

spike, buffy, wesley

Comments 4

reposoir November 21 2005, 12:37:57 UTC

Um, yes, Spike and Wes do meet. But...it's later, unless it's earlier. I forget.

Spike yelling Ow...well, his character is explored even more in S5/6/7, so...*leers*

thalia_seawood November 21 2005, 19:52:05 UTC

He's a fascinating character. I like it that you can't just pack him into the bad guy or good guy drawer.

selenak November 21 2005, 12:43:12 UTC

Beneath me: you're assuming that Buffy deliberately quotes Cecily here, which I really don't think is the case. Because what we, the audience see, and what Buffy hears Spike telling her are two different things, as evidenced by "I've always been bad" (Spike to Buffy) juxtaposed to the flashback to William, who of course is anything but. And "I needed to get myself a gang" - juxtaposed to the flashback where Spike is the young turk and lowest member in the Fanged Four hacking order. I think the Chinese flashback is the first one where what Buffy hears and what the audience sees actually is the same thing, and of course by the time we're in New York it is criss-crossed and melting into each other ( ... )

thalia_seawood November 21 2005, 20:10:50 UTC

Beneath me: you're assuming that Buffy deliberately quotes Cecily here, which I really don't think is the case.

You're, of course, absolutely right.
I knew in the beginning of the episode that we get to see things Spike does not tell Buffy - but by the end of the episode, I was so drawn in I had forgotten all about it. :-) Not something that happens to me often.

In summation: I think Buffy using the exact same phrase is coincidence. Of course, she wants to hurt Spike and push him back, but it's not that kind of calculated insult. It's a retaliation to him telling her basically that she longs for death and that since he's death, she wants to have sex with him.

Seems like the two have a talent for causing one another a tremendous amount of pain.

Spike calls Wesley "Percy" (as in Percy Weasley). Wesley isn't enamored of Spike, either.

Cool. I would have been very surprised if they had hit it off.