Time to put all (well - many :-)) of my thoughts into words. I hope I won't make too many mistakes while typing this as it's late and I always make silly mistakes then
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Ok, I haven't seen it but I just broke down and read all your reviews anyway. Hehe. I am very excited for it. And the "No" scream - again, haven't seen it, so this doesn't mean much, but it seems like a Star Wars tradition to scream "No" as someone vital to that character dies, like Luke when Obi-Wan dies and Obi-Wan when Qui-Gon dies.
Don't worry - I was completely spoiled when I watched the movie and still enjoyed it a lot.
I now see the "No" scream as hommage to Frankenstein. It's a parallel that fits: Palpatine has just built his monster. And as in Frankenstein, the monster is more human than its creator.
Watched the film for the third time with a friend today who's very down to earth. And she totally enjoyed the movie; she says she wouldn't change anything! High praise coming from her.
I now see the "No" scream as hommage to Frankenstein.
It might have been intended as a hommage to Frankenstein, but what is brought to my mind was Young Frankenstein, which is really *not* the effect GL could have wanted.
Also, part of the reason I think Anakin fell so fast is that once he'd made the first grevious mistake (attacking Windu in defence of Palpatine, even knowing Palpatineis Evil) he didn't think he could turn back. Every time we hear an Old Republic Jedi talk about falling to the Dark Side, they talk about it in absolutist terms -- once you're on that path, there is no turning back. They don't believe in repentance and redemption, and thus Anakin thinks he's *damned* from that moment on.
Only Luke, who is *not* an Old Republic Jedi, thinks people can turn from the Dark and walk in the Light again. And he succeeds because of that belief.
Also, part of the reason I think Anakin fell so fast is that once he'd made the first grevious mistake (attacking Windu in defence of Palpatine, even knowing Palpatineis Evil) he didn't think he could turn back. Every time we hear an Old Republic Jedi talk about falling to the Dark Side, they talk about it in absolutist terms -- once you're on that path, there is no turning back. They don't believe in repentance and redemption, and thus Anakin thinks he's *damned* from that moment on.
Good point. You can hear it in his "What have I done?". When he cut Mace's arm of he was driven by his emotions and then feels that he's damned himself anyway. So when he's already gone so far, why not go further and at least save Padmé.
He *knows* what he's doing is wrong, but he can't picture a life without Padmé, so he forces his conscience to be silent and comes up with justifications for his actions.
Since the Jedi and Palpatine both just seem to be interested in power, he decides to go with whoever offers him safety for Padmé as well.
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I now see the "No" scream as hommage to Frankenstein. It's a parallel that fits: Palpatine has just built his monster. And as in Frankenstein, the monster is more human than its creator.
Watched the film for the third time with a friend today who's very down to earth. And she totally enjoyed the movie; she says she wouldn't change anything! High praise coming from her.
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It might have been intended as a hommage to Frankenstein, but what is brought to my mind was Young Frankenstein, which is really *not* the effect GL could have wanted.
Also, part of the reason I think Anakin fell so fast is that once he'd made the first grevious mistake (attacking Windu in defence of Palpatine, even knowing Palpatineis Evil) he didn't think he could turn back. Every time we hear an Old Republic Jedi talk about falling to the Dark Side, they talk about it in absolutist terms -- once you're on that path, there is no turning back. They don't believe in repentance and redemption, and thus Anakin thinks he's *damned* from that moment on.
Only Luke, who is *not* an Old Republic Jedi, thinks people can turn from the Dark and walk in the Light again. And he succeeds because of that belief.
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Good point. You can hear it in his "What have I done?". When he cut Mace's arm of he was driven by his emotions and then feels that he's damned himself anyway. So when he's already gone so far, why not go further and at least save Padmé.
He *knows* what he's doing is wrong, but he can't picture a life without Padmé, so he forces his conscience to be silent and comes up with justifications for his actions.
Since the Jedi and Palpatine both just seem to be interested in power, he decides to go with whoever offers him safety for Padmé as well.
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