Thanks. It's just sort of frustrating--I'm happy for Rose fans who get to see her again; I'm just really really worried about what they're going to do. So I'm going to try to focus on my hopes for seeing a Rose who's made a great life for herself, I think.
That's interesting, because that's not the way that I read the end of "Doomsday" at all. More like one chapter of her life was over, and all the "I'm dead" stuff was just because in her home universe she was considered dead. I never thought she had given up on life and wouldn't go on to kick ass in her new universe, probably as some awesome alien expert for Torchwood, defending the universe. I'd be really surprised if that's not the Rose we get when she comes back. But then, Uncle Rusty's frequently a bit of an idiot, so there's no telling what he'll do.
It's not really the "This is the story of how I died" stuff; it's the part where she follows it up with "This is... the last story I'll ever tell." Because if she's off saving the universe--the way I would expect for the character and from her job at parallel Torchwood--why does she think she has no stories left? Even at the end of S1 she's convinced that she has to go after the Doctor not *just* because she wants to save him, but also because there's "nothing" for her left in her world. It just worries me, the way she expresses her life and herself in terms of negation when she talks about her non-Doctor life. She's strong and capable, but she doesn't seem to realize that she is.
And yeah. I would expect to see a kick-ass Rose come back. I just don't quite trust Rusty to pull it off, and I think that's the real problem.
Thanks. I'm trying to be reasonable and not just listen to the voice in my head that is complaining about how my Martha time seems to get reduced every time the BBC makes an announcement. :)
Here via link from significantowlJust wanted to thank you for standing up and saying straight out that it's not Martha having feelings for the Doctor that's the problem; it's his inability to "be in the moment" and take pleasure in a good thing that's right under his nose, even while mourning the loss of another good thing. And I was extremely baffled by the signals sent by the text in S3, with all of Martha's "he doesn't see me," because it sure as shit seemed like the text was telegraphing that the Doctor would open his eyes before it was all over. But he got sidetracked being floaty blue Tinkerbell Jesus, I guess. And even if Rusty gives us the eye opener now, even WITHOUT Rose, I've been stewing on this for far too long to be satisfied with anything short of the Doctor in a hair shirt practicing mortification of the flesh. And WITH Rose in the picture? Not a chance Martha's story's being fixed. She gets left as the only canonically unloved companion ever. (But go ahead, Rusty. Surprise me. I promise a full public apology
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And I was extremely baffled by the signals sent by the text in S3
Count me among the baffled as well. What on earth was the point of "There's something staring me in the face" and "He never even looks at me" if there wasn't going to be any resolution?
And I don't mean romantic resolution; as you point out, that is not the only option for female characters who interact with the Doctor! It was totally possible for Martha and Ten to have had a close relationship without romance in the picture, even if Martha was introduced with romantic feelings. Characters do change and grow, after all. Or at least, they ought to.
I agree about the difficulties of resolving Martha's story with Rose around, too--I was already worried about that with Donna, but with Rose as well, I'm now at least partly convinced that all of the messy stuff left between the Doctor and Martha will be swept under the rug. *sigh* Still, I'd love RTD to prove me wrong!
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And yeah. I would expect to see a kick-ass Rose come back. I just don't quite trust Rusty to pull it off, and I think that's the real problem.
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Count me among the baffled as well. What on earth was the point of "There's something staring me in the face" and "He never even looks at me" if there wasn't going to be any resolution?
And I don't mean romantic resolution; as you point out, that is not the only option for female characters who interact with the Doctor! It was totally possible for Martha and Ten to have had a close relationship without romance in the picture, even if Martha was introduced with romantic feelings. Characters do change and grow, after all. Or at least, they ought to.
I agree about the difficulties of resolving Martha's story with Rose around, too--I was already worried about that with Donna, but with Rose as well, I'm now at least partly convinced that all of the messy stuff left between the Doctor and Martha will be swept under the rug. *sigh* Still, I'd love RTD to prove me wrong!
And please, friend away!
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