Hypocrisy & The Morning After...

Nov 05, 2008 12:36

At this point i know alot of the gay community is feeling rather bittersweet today. With Prop 8 passing it's just another reminder that bigotry is alive and well in this country and in the state of California.

A friend of mine relayed this link to me this morning, which made the victory of Obama even more bittersweet.

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danolgb November 5 2008, 23:09:54 UTC
I think there is a possibility that the State Supreme Court will go that way and say, fine, since we have to treat everyone equally and the State is barred from using "marriage" universally, then the State will no longer be in the business of marriage.

I think what we'd then see is the religious folk would be up in arms about that as well, calling once again for the heads of the "activist judges". They want their right to the State recognizing their marriage, they just don't want the gays and lesbians to have anything that is the same as there's, despite their mealy-mouthed lies to the contrary.

If they left marriage only to the religions, then it would have to be open to definition by each religion. The religions that offer same sex marriages would have to have equal access, and thereby allegedly infringe on those religions which insist marriage is for opposite gender couples only.

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toomanytshirts November 5 2008, 23:47:52 UTC
i personally would LOVE the solution of taking all references to marriage out of our legal documents and social/financial systems. it would serve three goals: get us the same rights, remove the power of the religious groups from opposing it, and show the straight people exactly how much they have that we don't.

if that were the fight - i'd be totally down for it. and, seriously, fuck anyone who thinks that's not enough.

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sonoflaw November 6 2008, 04:02:25 UTC
Man, I was in a rage about this when I found out. I don't think the fight will end any time soon. The supreme court will hear about this, and more. What's even worse is that what you write is mostly correct. Most of the minorities at my workplace (most of them are) all told me honestly that they voted yes on 8, and I argued with them and tried to convince them otherwise (segregation and hate and all that badness mentioned), but somehow the idea of gay marriage threatens them, and I just DONT GET WHY. It makes no sense to me. Why shouldn't everybody have equal rights and why shouldn't we try to fight for that and...well, now I'm starting the ol' rant again.

Seriously, though. Just let me know if you find any community based ways to still fight this (because apparently millions of dollars and countless protests weren't enough). Not the proposition. The meaning behind it, that's what we still need to fight. Damn it.

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