We talked about that in one of my classes... a lot of guys just don't realize that women do not take that as a compliment. You'd think that'd be OBVIOUS.. but it's not. It's one of the reasons I don't always enjoy the fashion district. The young arabic men that work down there are always really insulting. They flirt and try to screw you over on price just because you're a young woman. It makes me SO ANGRY. I don't mind the wolf whistles so much, because usually it's from a car full of high school students around here and just makes me laugh. But seriously, treating me like that to my FACE? Dude. I have a college degree, can replace the parts in my computer myself with a minimum of guidance, drive like a fucking ninja, make a 3d model of damn near anything I can SEE.. and that's more than you guys have. I am clearly much more intelligent than you, gtfo.
That's a little bit odd, because in our garment district, the place I go to to buy fabric most of the time is run by a bunch of Middle-Eastern men and they're always extremely polite and friendly to me and give me a better deal than the other stores in the neighborhood. The only time I don't go to them is if there's something I want that they don't have in stock.
I did get treated like shit by a manager at my local grocery store, and I'm going tomorrow to speak to his manager, because I'm just that pissed off. Argh. But I rarely deal with situations where I feel disrespected or objectified in one-on-one dealings with people, be it at shops or in business conversations or whatnot. Unless it's at a party or a bar. And, well, we don't get cars full of young people in Manhattan. Because young people can't afford cars here, and don't need 'em. We do get grown, adult men who come right up to you or follow being you saying shit, which is creepy as fuck.
Yeah... beke's told me about that from her time in NYC. She also worked for some coffee shop there and when she quit to have her baby her boss, this young middle-eastern guy, punched her in the face and told her that she couldn't quit because she was his property. That was really creepy. she found out that he was also a local drug dealer and then they moved away from NYC. o___o;; Anyway, the older middle-eastern guys are always really polite to me in the fashion district. They call me "honey" but they're never rude and will haggle politely with me. And the ladies down there are hilarious. I love them
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About the catcalling, I definitely just cried foul to upper management at work complaining about a guy who does shit like that to me all the goddamn time. I totally agree with you there. Even when we're kidding around, my boyfriend doesn't treat me like that. I guess he just knows better. -shrug-
Ew. I would so not deal with it from someone I had to interact with regularly. I stopped going to the local hardware store because this guy in there used to make comments about my hair.
Catcalling is awful. It just makes me feel squicked out and weird, like someone has been watching me and I didn't know it. I once had a guy follow me down the street all "hey baby....hey! GIRL! I'm talking to you! What, am I creeping you out or something? I can't help that you're hot, I just want to talk!" and it was like what do you do about that?
I hate meeting guys anywhere but in class or like, bookstores.
Yeah, seriously. I want to know who the person is, what they do for fun, what their family is like, what they do for a living, and maybe write a couple little stories with them or something before I consider dating them?
On the map thing- that little wallet-size map that New York magazine has as a free pop-out once a year has the path & metronorth on it. It's a bit small to stare at all the time, but they might have a .SVG of it on their site somewhere. And I am not a fan of wolf whistles. I'm lucky that the area where my school is happens to be pretty [family] residential for Manhattan, so there just aren't as many dudes hanging around, but I have gotten hassled in the block or so between my apartment and the train I take to the path. It's definitely skeezier when it's an older dude- or a whole group of them. I would like to be all "Is this how you want people to treat your wives/sisters/daughters?" but I don't really want to be the statistic girl who didn't know that they were out looking for a fight.
I don't necessarily think it's skeezier based on age. Old dudes doing it doesn't bother me particularly more than young dudes, I guess. I'm not sure why.
The maps AT the stations have the stations all printed, but the one online does not-- that's a good idea, though. Thanks.
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I did get treated like shit by a manager at my local grocery store, and I'm going tomorrow to speak to his manager, because I'm just that pissed off. Argh. But I rarely deal with situations where I feel disrespected or objectified in one-on-one dealings with people, be it at shops or in business conversations or whatnot. Unless it's at a party or a bar. And, well, we don't get cars full of young people in Manhattan. Because young people can't afford cars here, and don't need 'em. We do get grown, adult men who come right up to you or follow being you saying shit, which is creepy as fuck.
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I hate meeting guys anywhere but in class or like, bookstores.
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But seriously, I totally second the "don't want to meet you until third date territory" feeling.
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And I am not a fan of wolf whistles. I'm lucky that the area where my school is happens to be pretty [family] residential for Manhattan, so there just aren't as many dudes hanging around, but I have gotten hassled in the block or so between my apartment and the train I take to the path. It's definitely skeezier when it's an older dude- or a whole group of them. I would like to be all "Is this how you want people to treat your wives/sisters/daughters?" but I don't really want to be the statistic girl who didn't know that they were out looking for a fight.
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The maps AT the stations have the stations all printed, but the one online does not-- that's a good idea, though. Thanks.
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