The mess that Gitmo has become is the primary reason that we're dealing with terrorists with Predator drones. If you kill people with a Hellfire missile or two, then their legal rights go out the window.
The mess that Gitmo has become is the primary reason that we're dealing with terrorists with Predator drones. If you kill people with a Hellfire missile or two, then their legal rights go out the window.
Heh ... at least something good has come out of the whining about Gitmo, though not what the whiners intended :)
anyway, if you kill them that way they cant answer any questions. not that we seem to be getting too much in that department out of the guys in Gitmo, but in principle there is still value to sometimes taking live prisoners.
Dude, Israel fired three Hellfires into an old man in a wheelchair.
Interrogations are becoming less effective as our methods become known to out enemies and now that they've realized that we can't mistreat them without people flipping out about it.
I'm guessing that waterboarding is much less effective now that people know what it is and how it works. The three guys the CIA waterboarded broke after 30 seconds. I've seen people who were doing documentaries get waterboarded for 10 minutes or so.
So if our interrogations aren't working, there's no point in risking people on the ground to take them prisoner. Killing these guys, at this point and time, is just better for us all around.
Dude, Israel fired three Hellfires into an old man in a wheelchair.
he had it coming. besides if the Israelis found him obviously they had all the information sources they needed. I never said it was necessary to capture EVERYONE alive.
Interrogations are becoming less effective as our methods become known to out enemies and now that they've realized that we can't mistreat them without people flipping out about it.oh you cant blame it all on that. Our methods were crude and unsophisticated. However effective people assert waterboarding to have been, it was still fairly crude, and it was still torture. The Israelis have far more sophisticated techniques, ones that straddle the line but remain in that grey zone where it can be argued that they are merely uncomfortable, not proper torture. Sleep deprivation and disorientation produce far more reliable information, regardless of whether people know about it. You can't really train for that sort of thing
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Heh ... at least something good has come out of the whining about Gitmo, though not what the whiners intended :)
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anyway, if you kill them that way they cant answer any questions. not that we seem to be getting too much in that department out of the guys in Gitmo, but in principle there is still value to sometimes taking live prisoners.
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Interrogations are becoming less effective as our methods become known to out enemies and now that they've realized that we can't mistreat them without people flipping out about it.
I'm guessing that waterboarding is much less effective now that people know what it is and how it works. The three guys the CIA waterboarded broke after 30 seconds. I've seen people who were doing documentaries get waterboarded for 10 minutes or so.
So if our interrogations aren't working, there's no point in risking people on the ground to take them prisoner. Killing these guys, at this point and time, is just better for us all around.
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he had it coming. besides if the Israelis found him obviously they had all the information sources they needed. I never said it was necessary to capture EVERYONE alive.
Interrogations are becoming less effective as our methods become known to out enemies and now that they've realized that we can't mistreat them without people flipping out about it.oh you cant blame it all on that. Our methods were crude and unsophisticated. However effective people assert waterboarding to have been, it was still fairly crude, and it was still torture. The Israelis have far more sophisticated techniques, ones that straddle the line but remain in that grey zone where it can be argued that they are merely uncomfortable, not proper torture. Sleep deprivation and disorientation produce far more reliable information, regardless of whether people know about it. You can't really train for that sort of thing ( ... )
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