Copy Rights ® vs Homeland Security

[verytwistedmind]

If you ever want to make the “®” it’s alt + 174.  Now don’t say I never taught you anything.

There have been two interesting articles regarding copy right I want to discuss.

Article 1:

The investigative arm of the Homeland Security Department appears to be shutting down websites that facilitate copyright infringement.

Immigration and Customs

Comments

[verytwistedmind]

[merig00]

Also ® html tag = & reg; without the space :)

[verytwistedmind]

I don't even know what the hell this means and I don't appreciate you being smarter than me.

Basic comprehension fail.

[squidb0i]

As a musician I have a vested interest in sane copyright, so have bothered to look into the topic.

So.

This is obviously a PHOTO of the seal used in an article, just as is done with nearly every article ever, anywhere.
It does not purport to be official in any way, and does not infringe copyright.

By the same faux logic, you should be sued and shut down for using the screen capture you just used, and every article that uses a photo of someone or a corporate logo should suffer the same fate.

Re: Basic comprehension fail.

[verytwistedmind]

I assume you looked at the article because you said "obviously". I don't think you looked at the screen capture I posted closely though. By the same faux logic, you should be sued and shut down for using the screen capture you just used,.I posted the picture of the ICE denied when you tried to access sites that have been shut down by ICE, not the Presidential Seal nor, could it be assumed that I was using it to show sponsorshuip or approval by the governement

As I said, the CfAP article is just like any other article using a photo of the subject.

[squidb0i]

You did something similar when you used a screencap - ie, another photo - of no less than three official government seals for your post.

So either you are right and it's all illegal or you're wrong.

Which is it?

Re: As I said, the CfAP article is just like any other article using a photo of the subject.

[merig00]

Though it is obvious CfAP uses a picture of the seal it does makes the article and the way it is presented more authoritative look. Is it legal or not - idk.

[rasilio]

Ignoring for the moment the validity of copyright the question of whether ICE is the correct branch of the government to be shutting down said websites is a fairly easy one to get into.

Presumably the hosting servers and the manufacturer in the case of the knock off products are located outside of the country. Were they not then the government could just as easily have shut down the actual server/manufacturer.

Since (one of) the goal of ICE is to prevent smuggling into the country of any form of contraband then it is reasonable for them to be involved in this activity.

On the flip side ICE would not be the correct department to handle misuse of the Presidential seal as there is no foreign activity involved. Instead this would fall to either the FBI or the Secret Service

[verytwistedmind]

Since (one of) the goal of ICE is to prevent smuggling into the country of any form of contraband then it is reasonable for them to be involved in this activity.

That is exactly what I needed to know thank you Rasilio

[penguin42]

There's probably enough with the presidential seal thing to go to court, but probably not enough to win. So it'd be a waste of resources for the DoJ to bring the suit.

[gunslnger]

Well, I'm going to be putting the presidential seal on everything I publish from now on then.

[squidb0i]

You totally should. Especially if you use a crappy photo of it like CfAP did.