Provided Jefferson is granted it's own libertarian paradise, I'm sure they'll be content. (Although I feel like they need a floating island or undersea kingdom or something to truly fulfill their dreams.)
Californian (well, ex-Californian, now Washingtonian here):
Or a long-running sentiment on part of the West Coast?
Very long running sentiment. I first started hearing it about the time Regan decided to eliminate our military basis as punishment back in the 80s for not voting for him.
Have they felt so disenfranchised by the policies of the rest of the country that they'd want out?
I mean, there's the sentiment that the West Coast has had money, business and agriculture siphoned away from them in order to fund the dysfunctional policies of the rest of the country, and moreover, places like Oregon, California
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The trouble is that even bluest-of-blue California is still too 'purple' for a secession to really solve it's political problems. All we would really be doing is cutting off the connective federal tissue that binds us with the other big shots like New York, Florida, and Texas. It would also drastically impact our presence on the world stage. Why do what America wants, when you can play California against New York?
Oh, I agree. I think it's a terrible idea and my guess is will be rejected in a vote. (Rather like the proposal to split California into six states.)
With that said, the rage has existed well prior to this election (to a lesser extent, there's also the Cascadia movement - right now, I believe Calexit doesn't include incorporation of Cascadia, although that could be an interesting twist). And while yes, Trump willing and taking congress with him was, if you will, the tinder, it's not a new concept. It's just one that hasn't gone anywhere and, I suspect, never will.
Trump can't do anything about it - it isn't his job, yet.... Seems like some higher ups, maybe ones with more influence on the protesters, would speak up. Seems like the side worrying about others accepting the results weren't prepared to accept them themselves....
The unpleasantness of 1861-1865 had permanent consequences. If the people of California, or any other state, are interested in revisiting this issue, they are, by right, entitled to try. However, a the member of a family who had experience with the earlier iteration of this sentiment, allow me to discourage my friends in California from pursuing the course my great-great grandparents did. It did not end well for them. Although, it did end well for the nation as a whole.
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I'm in!!!
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You should figure that both Oregon & Washington states have access to Pacific.
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Or a long-running sentiment on part of the West Coast?
Very long running sentiment. I first started hearing it about the time Regan decided to eliminate our military basis as punishment back in the 80s for not voting for him.
Have they felt so disenfranchised by the policies of the rest of the country that they'd want out?
I don't think it'll pass but yes, some people certainly feel this way and, thanks to California's bizarre initiative system, it will almost certainly end up on the ballot. (California also has a long history of arguing with the federal government that it should be treated like its own country, from using their national guard to prevent other Americans from immigrating to tangles with other states over international trade.
I mean, there's the sentiment that the West Coast has had money, business and agriculture siphoned away from them in order to fund the dysfunctional policies of the rest of the country, and moreover, places like Oregon, California ( ... )
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With that said, the rage has existed well prior to this election (to a lesser extent, there's also the Cascadia movement - right now, I believe Calexit doesn't include incorporation of Cascadia, although that could be an interesting twist). And while yes, Trump willing and taking congress with him was, if you will, the tinder, it's not a new concept. It's just one that hasn't gone anywhere and, I suspect, never will.
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